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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
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Hood River
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 Tue Sep 25, 12 1:39 pm |
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| "Important" and "Accessible" are two different things. |
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Tue Sep 25, 12 1:48 pm |
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| Trent wrote: | | "Important" and "Accessible" are two different things. |
I will ask again
Are you saying that because some kids do not have access to the cable park it should not be built? |
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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
76 Posts
Hood River
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| Tue Sep 25, 12 1:49 pm |
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| Nope. Not at all. |
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dangerD
Since 27 Jun 2005
223 Posts
Bingen Heights
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| Tue Sep 25, 12 4:49 pm Poor kids begging |
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I run White Salmon Photography across the river filming rafting. You'd be amazed at how many lower/middle income folks come out for our rafting trips! A $50 1/2 day trip is the ultimate getaway for a lot of people, much like the cable park will be as well. And they always buy photos. Rich guys race off in their Bmers saying theyll check the photos online, but often they don't. Sometime we even get lawyers pretending to serve our community asking for free photos. Its downright embarrassing.
BTW You no longer have any rights to those photos. If I see them anywhere, I suing! you D#$%  |
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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
1691 Posts
I give out bad advice.
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 4:14 am Access is everything!! |
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I'm a kiteboarder and I am a teacher of kids with exceptional learning styles, special ed. I'm not in favor of the park and in fact think it's a big mistake.
I'm against taking a large chunk of useful and used water and making it exclusive to only one group of people being towed around on a cable.
It's a bad idea.
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 7:29 am Re: Access is everything!! |
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Ron, I have to pose the question, is the waterfront not already covered in exclusive use?
I hope you continue to fight this good fight and get kiteboarders access to the event site to launch and land year round, access to the new waterfront park which was built with banning kiteboarding in mind (conditional CGWA donation), access to the Marina beach grass which kites have been banned from.
Blocking the cable park leaves nothing but SUP and Kayaking. There is NOTHING that anyone can do if you don't have a SUP or a Kayak that is remotely close to an active water sport. It's just as exclusive. Welcome to the Hood River Retirement Community.
| bulae99 wrote: | I'm a kiteboarder and I am a teacher of kids with exceptional learning styles, special ed. I'm not in favor of the park and in fact think it's a big mistake.
I'm against taking a large chunk of useful and used water and making it exclusive to only one group of people being towed around on a cable.
It's a bad idea. |
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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
76 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:14 am |
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Forrest, you guys are confusing ACCESS with USAGE again. Access is how one gets into the water. That, by nature can be and is limited (private property, ordinances, etc.). USAGE is what one does when they are IN the water. That is relatively unlimited (by law on a navigable waterway). No, the waterfront is NOT already covered in exclusive use. Sure, there are certain access restrictions but the actual usage of the water is basically unlimited.
Currently you can do pretty much whatever you want in the basin. You can SUP, swim, fish, kayak, kiteboard, windsurf, float around on a tube, scuba dive, whatever. Put in a cable park and you can do only one thing. Ride a cable. Your logic is completely flawed.
And who sez that the basin has to be utilized soley for an "Active watersport?" |
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On a Rampage
Since 19 Dec 2007
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Florida Keys
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:30 am |
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| I gotta say some of you guys like Trent and Bulee are confusing me. If there is a cable in the basin, why can't you sup and swim? I don't get this part. I live in the keys and have Keys Cable to ride. They rent sup and swim and snorkel all in the same lake which I believe is smaller than the basin. Why does it seem that those in favor of the cable seem to support the other activities but not the other way around? |
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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
76 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:41 am |
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| Because this particular proposed cable park would rope off the entire area that the cable parks operates in during business hours. No other activities allowed. |
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nicorico
Since 13 Sep 2012
23 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:42 am |
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| Trent wrote: | Put in a cable park and you can do only one thing (in the Basin). Ride a cable. Your logic is completely flawed.
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Trent, you started off by holding firm to logic and reason by way of calling out Ian on his seemingly overgeneralized and inaccurate statements. Would you like to apply that same formula to your own words quoted above now please?
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Jonpnw
Since 22 Jul 2010
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Pacific Northwest
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:43 am I too am confused |
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| On a Rampage wrote: | | I gotta say some of you guys like Trent and Bulee are confusing me. If there is a cable in the basin, why can't you sup and swim? |
I am confused also. When the "friends" organized their free float in to show support for their argument against, they had buoys showing where the cable park would be AND there was still plenty of room to SUP, swim, float, etc.
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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
76 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:46 am |
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| Certainly, Nic. I should have inserted the words "In the basin" into my statement. I assumed everyone would know that I was not talking about the rest of the Columbia River. |
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nicorico
Since 13 Sep 2012
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Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:52 am |
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| Trent wrote: | | Certainly, Nic. I should have inserted the words "In the basin" into my statement. I assumed everyone would know that I was not talking about the rest of the Columbia River. |
Apparently I need to clarify... You know as well as everyone else that saying, "Put in a cable park and you can do only one thing (in the Basin). Ride a cable." is blatant disinformation.
Care to defend and qualify that statement?
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:53 am |
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| Trent wrote: | | Forrest, you guys are confusing ACCESS with USAGE again. |
Right because the access behind those fences next to the wind wing building is so awesome right now. Would not want to take away such a great access point to the boat basin...
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Trent
Since 10 May 2012
76 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 8:57 am |
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| No one has ever claimed that the current ACCESS to the basin is great or even good. The USAGE of the basin is really great right now though in a lot of people's minds. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 9:01 am |
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Your points are so twisted im not even sure what you are trying to argue anymore other than, 20 people use this area, most likely you being one of them, and you cant make a compromise to improve the waterfront.
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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| Wed Sep 26, 12 9:55 am |
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| Trent, I saw in a movie once (Thank You For Smoking) where the main character, while teaching his son to debate, said that arguing the negative of your opponents points is one strategy to win debates. Glad to see we share the same tastes in movies. |
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