safety monkeys

saleeba · Since 05 Mar 2006 238 Posts Masshole Stoked

heres your seperate thread asskitten. if anyone pissed on the thread for the hatteras kiter it was definately you with your remarks. no one means any disrespect with there posts about helmets and weather safety. its the best time to raise awareness! if anyone showed any disrespect in the thread it was certainly you. maybe you should be the one starting your own fucking thread.

TrickyNicky · Since 14 Nov 2008 56 Posts Â

Sals, Maybe you should put that in Shakespearean so Fo understands.

fokiten · Since 04 Mar 2005 188 Posts Stoked

thanks,

He was aware of the weather, had a six up...

He was throwing down, a badge of honor in Hood.

Helmets increase a melon's circumference, and may indeed snap one's neck when one impacts water, (no biggie) but the pictured one has bill--a real no, no, when it comes to water impacts and broken necks.

If you want to say high wind is bad for you, then what about sliders?

and while you're at it, explain "biggest air events".

Hey, can't have it both ways...

Safety when used as a promotional tool has the certain smack of hypocrisy...

there but for the grace go every one of us.

Kiting, not a thing to pimp to the unaware, and to say you know the weather and you'd like to share some tips to insure your saftey

is well, to disrespect the stoke.

and that's where we part ways...

Stoked, to be anti hype, anti promo, anti know it all safety monkey.

(and their fucking charts with multi colored arrows)

The biggest offenders are not found here, yet I still feel the need to communicate.

there but for the grace...

thanks
fo

mschulz · Since 29 May 2007 530 Posts Reno, NV Addicted

I sure hope it blows this weekend, because I think we could all use a session to mellow out.

fokiten · Since 04 Mar 2005 188 Posts Stoked

So I'm thinking you're hoping the wind isn't mellow--wink!

so you can go throw down and work on your back roll to blind...etc.

Is that about right?

It's the irony I enjoy, until that is some safety freak disrespects the stoke.

It's not wind that'll kill ya, it's the fucking stoke, and we all have shit for brains when it comes to mellowing ourselves out with a ripping session...Eh?

think so

there but for the grace...

fo

pdxmonkeyboy · Fri Apr 17, 09 12:40 pm

How exactly does bringing up the notion that wearing a helmet may not be a bad idea kill the stoke? I think getting knocked out and drowning would kill the stoke pretty damn good.

So we can't push the envelope AND be safe?

fokiten · Since 04 Mar 2005 188 Posts Stoked

Hey you can wear a helmet and be just as stoked or dead for that matter...

i support your desire to push your envelope.

So,

"It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again"

pdxmonkeyboy · Fri Apr 17, 09 12:48 pm

Once again your threads do not make a single bit of sense to me; I thought i was following your train of thought, but obviously I missed something. So for the greater good can you please inform us WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT?

I half want to see you in person to find out if you can actually ride but the other half of me doesn't want you throwing me in a well and starving me so my skin will become loose..thereby making it easier to peel off.

Blue · Since 03 Jul 2007 469 Posts I used to be Obsessed

saleeba · Since 05 Mar 2006 238 Posts Masshole Stoked

data would be nice. with helmets being as lightweight as they are these days, the chances of a kiter breaking their neck wearing one are probably much less than the chance that they'll be knocked unconscious without.

hey fo can you put a pie chart or something together for us? pros and cons of anti stoke?

kyle.vh · Since 11 Jul 2007 713 Posts city of angels Addicted

...and lets remember what the helmet is primarily for: protecting you against rocks, boards, debris.
I dont think fo' has a point. He just made an ass of himself while others are mourning and trying to learn from a tragedy. Now he's in the despicable/useless position of defending is comments.

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

Not trying to get in the middle of anything because I really don't care, but I heard most helmets are only rated for impacts from up to 15mph. At any rate, wearing one is probably better than not be...

I got hit by a car riding my bike home from school in the 7th grade [back in '98], and without my helmet I'd most likely be dead!

pdxmonkeyboy · Fri Apr 17, 09 1:31 pm

I'm not sure what speed helmets are rated to but I would think bike helmets are rated a little higher than 15mph. Helmets are designed to absorb energy during an impact, be that rocks, the ground or water (which feels like cement if you hit it fast enough). The SR helmets have a basic but pretty interesting video demonstrating how different foams absorb energy and slow down the velocities of your head during impact.

That decrease in speed may spell the difference between seeing stars and getting knocked out and drowning.

jahmbi · Fri Apr 17, 09 1:46 pm

FOKITEN IS IN THE SILENCE OF THE LAMB MODE Laughing

WATCH OUT OR THOW WILL BE SKINED Twisted Evil

mschulz · Since 29 May 2007 530 Posts Reno, NV Addicted

When you think about what causes concussions, stars, knocking out etc, you have to think how the brain is held in your skull. Your brain is surrounded by cerebrospinal fluid that allows it move. When you have an impact, helmet or no helmet, your brain stays in motion until it hits something that stops it, your forehead, and then it reverberates back and hits the back of your head. Think of a bucket of water that gets kicked and it sloshes around. That entire trauma to the brain isn’t good.

Your helmet absorbs shock yes, but your brain will still move back and forth hitting the skull. Your helmet is good for blunt trauma like Kyle and PMB have stated, but continual pounding of your head, helmet or not, will certainly cause damage.

With that said, I still wear a helmet to ski, bike, motorcycle, but unfortunately not to kite. I believe neck fractures are my biggest worry and I personally would rather not survive that.

Blue · Since 03 Jul 2007 469 Posts I used to be Obsessed

This is the list of common injuries I am familiar with (summary from ikiteobarding.com)

jahmbi · Fri Apr 17, 09 2:47 pm

JUST PUT IT THIS WAY Twisted Evil

A HELMET IS CHEAPER THAN A NEW SKULL Laughing

AMAZING HUH?.......IF SOMEONE CHOOSES NOT TO WEAR A HELMET IT'S THE CHOICE THEY MAKE...WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHOICES Exclamation

...BUT MAYBE NOT, AS GORE VIDAL SAYS , ALOT OF OUR RIGHTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY Exclamation

...TROLL