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colby

Since 23 Apr 2005
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PostTue Aug 19, 08 11:20 am    Shai Agassi - changing the world: Reply with quote

long but worthy read...gotta love his moxy

http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-09/ff_agassi?currentPage=all

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pkh

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PostTue Aug 19, 08 1:02 pm     Reply with quote

Hey if you are starting to feel down about expensive oil, just take heart in knowing that its going towards building some really neat stuff (not in our country though):



http://gizmodo.com/5038788/tallest-skyscraper-in-the-world-almost-completed-defies-belief

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Diggy

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PostTue Aug 19, 08 1:09 pm     Reply with quote

Ah yes, The Bush Tower. It is marvelous!

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colby

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PostTue Aug 19, 08 2:15 pm     Reply with quote

lead guy on the design team is 4'6" tall and is nicknamed after a french conqueror...

Halliburton's new headquarters??

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PostTue Aug 19, 08 8:09 pm     Reply with quote

someones aparently thinks my beach rig is valuable, except mines a eco diesel (turbo diesel) motor from the 90 jetta

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Rabbit-TURBO-A-C-VW-CADDY-RABBIT-PICKUP-TRUCK-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ15294QQihZ015QQitemZ250284446121QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW






yep those hybrids are amazing thirty years later caught back up to old efficiency.

and safety for the wrecks we get into weekly. Twisted Evil

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blowhard

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PostWed Aug 20, 08 6:34 am     Reply with quote

registered wrote:
someones aparently thinks my beach rig is valuable, except mines a eco diesel (turbo diesel) motor from the 90 jetta

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Rabbit-TURBO-A-C-VW-CADDY-RABBIT-PICKUP-TRUCK-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ15294QQihZ015QQitemZ250284446121QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW






yep those hybrids are amazing thirty years later caught back up to old efficiency.

and safety for the wrecks we get into weekly. Twisted Evil

hostile Wink


You Hosestyle,, Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
one of those offers is mine I offered $40

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Kodiak

Since 01 Aug 2005
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PostWed Aug 20, 08 3:19 pm    Re: Shai Agassi - changing the world: Reply with quote

colby wrote:
long but worthy read...gotta love his moxy

http://www.wired.com/cars/futuretransport/magazine/16-09/ff_agassi?currentPage=all


Really interesting read. I hope this actually works.

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philmcn

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PostThu Aug 21, 08 7:21 am     Reply with quote

Quit whining, its around $6 a gallon here in Europe! Costs me around 150 bucks to fill up my VW Golf in the UK. Its worse in some countries.

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pacifichigh

Since 11 May 2005
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PostThu Aug 21, 08 8:07 am     Reply with quote

3.35 in Texas Again

5.00+ on the water though

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tsunami
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PostThu Aug 21, 08 12:18 pm     Reply with quote

If we go to electric cars imagine how high our electric prices will go.. the grid won't like covering the oil deficite.

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genek

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PostThu Aug 21, 08 12:36 pm     Reply with quote

philmcn wrote:
Quit whining, its around $6 a gallon here in Europe! Costs me around 150 bucks to fill up my VW Golf in the UK. Its worse in some countries.


A big part of that is cuz the US dollar's in the shitter. Don't forget that you make proportionally more money at your job since everything costs more in the UK when translated to US dollars.

On a different note, it'll be easier to increase electricity generation in an eco friendly fashion in the long term than to keep relying on oil. Also, breaking the dependence on unstable regions of the world will be good.

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pacifichigh

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PostThu Aug 21, 08 2:09 pm     Reply with quote

Love when NWkite plays smart

Crude has come way off its high of $147 earlier in the summer, closed today @ $121 but has been as low as $111 recently.

Pullback driven by demand destruction in Asia, US, Europe (people not driving as much b/c $hit is spendy), and a strenghting Dollar.

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PostThu Aug 21, 08 3:22 pm     Reply with quote

yeah I am sure they won't mind opening another trojan right. Laughing Laughing

better stratigize another eco jaizaster to keep the tree huggers distracted to get the approval through.


ever heard of rolin blackouts ....brown outs?
Cali will be setting the way and they are already having delivery /consumption issues......

buy some local water and gas stocks probably won't be dissapointed in the longrun. Wink

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mschulz

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PostThu Aug 21, 08 4:05 pm     Reply with quote

Although I am not in favor of being addicted to oil, last I heard, supply was not the issue. It was futurists and hedgers that spiked the cost of Crude, something like the California energy issues a few summers back.

I am cool with nuclear but I would like to see more solar and wind alternatives.

I sure wish I would have bought more stock in chevron 2 years ago instead of buy my f'ing house in Happy Valley. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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pacifichigh

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PostFri Aug 22, 08 6:20 am     Reply with quote

I work as an energy trader and people love to blame speculating on the rise in oill. In reality, up until a few weeks ago the fundamentals of crude oil were out of balance. Demand was outpacing supply, the world was using more oil everyday than it was producing.

Speculating does play a part in price swings, but its not the only driver.

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pkh

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PostFri Aug 22, 08 6:31 am     Reply with quote

Funny that $111 a barrel would seem cheap! How quickly we adapt (turn the temp down on the stove so the frog doesn't jump out yet....)


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pjc

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PostFri Aug 22, 08 9:27 am     Reply with quote

in the late 1990's oil was trading for the inflation adjusted lowest prices *ever*. in the entire history of the petroleum industry, the cheapest constant $ prices were when that graph starts.

a better graph would be to overlay the dow jones on top of the price of oil for the last 30-40 years.

if you really are confident that the price of oil is going to go up and up and up, than you should be putting your life savings here

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