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ben944
Since 04 Jun 2010
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 Mon Jun 07, 10 4:08 pm |
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| ok now were talking, alot of good advice and some making me nervous and i don't generally get nervous with things like this. Please don't get me wrong if i in anyway insinuated that you were all stupid or incapable thats not what i was trying to do, just trying to get your attention. I have done alot of crazy things in my life and somehow managed to come through unscathed. And like most of you i'm sure, i need a little danger in my life to make me feel alive. |
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ben944
Since 04 Jun 2010
51 Posts
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| Mon Jun 07, 10 4:38 pm |
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| Just wan't to say thank's to NAK for the good advice also PJC I think your right about the 90% learning without lessons, and snow kiting and possibly trying a mountain or all terrain board , and KITEMARE with photo shop this would never work though, my friends know me better than that. Oh and Pdx theres nothing wrong with masturbating with a metal hook, i try different things all the time. If i forgot anyone and i'm sure i did thanks to you. |
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Moto
Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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| Mon Jun 07, 10 7:25 pm |
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| ben944 wrote: | | If i forgot anyone and i'm sure i did thanks to you. |
Don't forget Holly. She said you sounded stupid. Thats like saying "welcome to the forum" in nwkite lingo 
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
1342 Posts
Da Hood & Da Wood
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| Mon Jun 07, 10 8:15 pm |
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Instead of advice I'll tell you my experience and you can take what you wish. I tried kiting, sans lessons, in the days before certification. Two line Wipika and a 7'2" surfboard and a very quick beeline downwind (sans board, of course). I had grown up flying stunt kites which got me into windsurfing which begat years of lost jobs and broken relationships and a decade lost in that windy northwest mecca, but that's another story. Anyway I figured it must be the board so I tried it again on a Lester Polyester creation (with straps) and fared even worse, so I went back to poledancing until safety actually became a consideration in kite design (~2006, and that's sarcasm by the way... well kinda). My "instructor" (drinking buddy) couldn't teach me anymore because of what he did to his back kiting anyway.
Borrowed a stunt kite, got that down pat, watched the videos (VHS, not Betamax), read the mags, and dug through product descriptions to learn the gear and distinguishing features. Saved up the cash and went to South Padre Island, Texas, for lessons with Air Padre (boats, radio helmets, top notch instructors). Flew a 17m LF my first day, tried waterstarting, almost got it. Flew a 9m LF second day, got up riding in one direction, considered paid lessons a success, then went on to practice self-rescues.
Yes, instead of practicing riding, I spent a bunch of valuable time practicing safety, because the money I spent on lessons bought me the time to. All told, by the end of my one week there I was doing transitions in both directions and practicing "sending" the kite to jump. Came back with a cracked rib and a new addiction.
People can talk safety until they're blue in the face but a newbie either gets it or doesn't listen. From my perspective (I'm cheap) it was money well spent, because I learned way faster than teaching myself and I lived through several kitemares (you will have them) with instinctual calm. Plus beer is cheap in Texas.
To be fair, being around the sport and industry gave me an advantage many don't have, but I suppose that's why you're on forums like this to start with. Welcome and good luck! |
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
1342 Posts
Da Hood & Da Wood
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| Mon Jun 07, 10 8:16 pm |
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| Oh, and don't let anyone sell you a board leash. |
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mschulz
Since 29 May 2007
530 Posts
Reno, NV
Addicted
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| Mon Jun 07, 10 9:06 pm |
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| shred_da_gorge wrote: | | Oh, and don't let anyone sell you a board leash. |
or a GoJo, or a helmet, or life jacket. They are like lessons- all gay.
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Sol-flyer
Since 21 Mar 2006
1280 Posts
Dude, where's my Bus?
Otto Mann
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 6:21 am |
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| Quote: | | or a GoJo, or a helmet, or life jacket. They are like lessons- all gay. |
Really? Becuase I recommend wearing a helmet no matter what skill level,...things happen. Same goes for a life vest, when was the last time you had to swim thru big nasty swell? and go-joes serve a resonable purpose and are much better than a leash, so let them be. 
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Moto
Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 6:27 am |
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| Sol-flyer wrote: | | and go-joes serve a resonable purpose |
GoJos kick ass - just wait until the beginning of the season and you will see post after post of lost boards. These boards would not have gotten lost if they had gojos on them.
Moto Mouth should be changed to gojo pimp. Bwahahaha!!
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wytcap
Since 10 Mar 2005
203 Posts
NW oregon
Stoked
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 7:20 am |
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Why would people be to cool for a hemet and vest?
Oh wait dying is so cool!!!!!!!  |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 8:31 am |
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Life jacket is probably not neccessary but an impact vest is a pretty good idea. I've never hit my head on anything kiting but over the years several boards have hit my head...two because of leashes.
In 8 years of kiting I've never lost a board. If you want to gojoe then gojoe but it really is just a cruch for those that can't body drag. The leashes though I don't why they still make those things. I cringe and run the other way whenever I see a leash
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mschulz
Since 29 May 2007
530 Posts
Reno, NV
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 9:04 am |
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Sarcasim ----
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
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dancingwind
Since 18 Jul 2007
321 Posts
Obsessed
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 2:03 pm |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | | mschulz wrote: | | Sarcasim ---- |
Actually not sarcasm at all.
What? You rolling with a leash? More than any anything in kiteboarding, leashes just scream idiot to me. |
Totally agree!! Board leashes in kiteboarding is asking for serious injury, or possibly drowning if you get knocked unconscious. Unless you are a proficient bodydragger you have no business working on your board skills in the water.
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ben944
Since 04 Jun 2010
51 Posts
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 4:03 pm |
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| Wow, were to begin? I guess with Holly how did i forget Holly must have been that warm welcome. Ok so no helmet, life jacket or board leash. I don't even have the kite yet its in the mail, counting the minutes tick tock tick tock. I think you might be right about the trainer kite. although not usually my style, however like i said there are no shops to bye kites here or instructors. I spend a fare amount of time around the beaches here and never saw anyone kiteboarding. I guess i'll be the pioneer. |
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Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
1871 Posts
Wicked Pissah
Boston Tea Bagger
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 4:07 pm |
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| ben944 wrote: | | Wow, were to begin? I guess with Holly how did i forget Holly must have been that warm welcome. Ok so no helmet, life jacket or board leash. I don't even have the kite yet its in the mail, counting the minutes tick tock tick tock. I think you might be right about the trainer kite. although not usually my style, however like i said there are no shops to bye kites here or instructors. I spend a fare amount of time around the beaches here and never saw anyone kiteboarding. I guess i'll be the pioneer. |
What area do you live in? |
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mschulz
Since 29 May 2007
530 Posts
Reno, NV
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 4:22 pm |
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| pdxmonkeyboy wrote: | | mschulz wrote: | | Sarcasim ---- |
Actually not sarcasm at all.
What? You rolling with a leash? More than any anything in kiteboarding, leashes just scream idiot to me. |
Yeah - you know it. I personally like to double the leash up. I would hate for my board to get away from me. You know those things are expensive. 
Hitithard - I have to say, it sure sounds like you are pulling our chains. I shouldn't have gotten into this, but seriously, take a vacation and plan to take a lesson. You will get hooked and have the ground work to really start a great progression with or with out all the safety gear. We were all kooks at the beginning- and some of us still are. Good luck and have fun.
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K4L
Since 19 Jan 2009
483 Posts
Obsessed
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| Tue Jun 08, 10 4:30 pm |
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| ben944 wrote: | | Ok so no helmet, life jacket or board leash. I don't even have the kite yet its in the mail, counting the minutes tick tock tick tock. I think you might be right about the trainer kite. although not usually my style, however like i said there are no shops to bye kites here or instructors. I spend a fare amount of time around the beaches here and never saw anyone kiteboarding. I guess i'll be the pioneer. |
At least you dont have to worry about pissing off a local kite community by getting a beach closed down or bringing bad publicity to a local scene.
Sounds like in your situation you can only hurt yourself (unless you count the family you could leave behind) , the ones I really feel for are friends being taught by a friend.....that allways serves up some painfull entertainment. |
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