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Kite Knifes: Force required to cut line.
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trevorsmith

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 9:57 am    Re: dive knife Reply with quote

Mark wrote:
Decided to carry it when the fishermen strung a net out from Stevenson....


Yah right..you just want to be like this guy


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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 10:01 am     Reply with quote

This is the knife I carry. It works really well and will also carve a turkey with ease, try that with your fancy pants hook knife. one thing you have to be careful of is the extension cord. You can't get too far away from shore.

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Gman

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 10:06 am     Reply with quote

Always be prepared...

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jbruxer

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 10:16 am     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
Always be prepared...


And for a small fee of $999, you can have one sent right to your door. Wink http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8b97/?cpg=60H

....you'll want to be sure and wear your helmet if you are carrying this as a kite knife. Laughing

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 10:28 am     Reply with quote

I like that it comes with a radio antenna
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PostWed Jul 23, 08 10:29 am     Reply with quote

geez... do I have to show you my friggin "laazzerrr" ?

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mystrygrl

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 3:45 pm     Reply with quote

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"laazzerrr"

gotta watch out for sharks with those frickin' "laazzerrr" beams on their heads!!! Laughing

Seriously tho... thanks for the info Nak... think you just talked this data geek into buying a captain hook knife!

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HoodRat

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PostWed Jul 23, 08 11:41 pm     Reply with quote

you call that a knife?

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kitezilla

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PostThu Jul 24, 08 8:48 am     Reply with quote

Nak,

The large throated hook knife in the picture is quite worthless as a line cutting device, and is dangerous, in that you could get your finger caught in the slot. The serrations look good but are quite fragile, and as soon as the blade slips laterally along the line, the thin edge bends over and looses its ability to cut. I was very disappointed in that knife...I ordered it from a dive shop in Florida.

I think that for cutting thicker line, a real knife, like the Bear Claw or the one Mark showed would be the best answer...that is...if you kept the blade sharp... and practiced using it. It is hard to keep sawing the blade back and forth in the same place on a rope in the water, even when you have the use of both hands.

The Indian fishing netting in the Columbia R. has some serious drowning hazard potential. I once had my foot caught in one, and got religion, and since then have given those marker floats a wide berth. If you can't untangle your foot, the current will drag you downstream and you will not be able to keep your head above water. I was lucky to have a windsurfer for flotation, and even luckier to have my bootie come off. I would have been better off without wetsuit and booties, because then I could have felt exactly where the net was located. Your first option would always be to spend the first few seconds of time trying to untangle yourself from the net, even if you had a knife. If I got tangled in a net while kiting, I guess I would try to use the kite to pull me upstream, to keep my head above water,and maybe get lucky and have the power of the kite pull me completely free of the net. Also, you should be aware of the possibility of getting your hand and knife tangled in the net, if you reach down to cut the net to free your foot...you can always make a bad situation worse!

One final observation: The person who has the type of personality to recognize danger and carry safety gear is the least likely person to ever need it...but that person should continue carrying the gear, so that he may help out others... who will then see the value in carrying safety gear...and maybe pass the favor on.

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KidCorporate

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PostThu Jul 24, 08 9:01 am     Reply with quote

The fact that the extra-huge Swiss Army knife exists made my day. But about knives, I've debated carrying a full size diving knife like the one posted because it might be difficult to get lines into little slots in the middle of shit going down, but then again it might be just as easy to cut the shit out of yourself for the same reason.
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blowhard

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PostMon Oct 27, 08 2:31 pm    Kitezilla Reply with quote

I've been following this conversation
on the other forum and just bought a Benchmade seat belt cutter
they are located in Oregon City at 300 Beavercreek Road,
guarenteed for life and they will resharpen
them for free for life
made with 440 stainless and resharpenable with a round file
the one I got is like the old dakine models
$20

The Captian Hook after 6 months is a rusty p.o.s. $35

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JoshMM

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PostMon Oct 27, 08 8:14 pm     Reply with quote

I actually had to use my knife to cut a line (my fith line that was wrapped into a knot around my bar) to reluanch my kite this year.

It was ridiclously easy. took maybe 1 second and very little force. It was just the rusted kook knife in my 4 year old dakine harness.

Then i just kited in on fourlines after reluanching and tied my fith line back together and went out for another great session.

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Bigbeezer

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PostMon Oct 27, 08 8:20 pm     Reply with quote

ditto, Thanks Nak for the good info. What is brand name of the other double blade hook knife? I like that it appears to be smaller than the Captain hook knife.

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kitezilla

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PostTue Oct 28, 08 5:18 am     Reply with quote

Bigbeezer wrote:
ditto, Thanks Nak for the good info. What is brand name of the other double blade hook knife? I like that it appears to be smaller than the Captain hook knife.


Mystic makes the knife...I think Pepi stocks it at 2nd Wind

I just posted the results of my year long study of the deterioration of the cutting ability of this knife, under extreme environmental conditions. If you are "geek-tolerant", read all about it here in the last few pages of the thread:

http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2343820&p=556883

I am now doing a study of the Captain Hook style kite knife (Hook Knife.com is the brand) under the same environmental conditions. I will get back to you in a year or so with the results.

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Mark

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PostTue Oct 28, 08 8:08 am     Reply with quote

Have had my dive knife all summer. Couple of times in the ocean, lots in the fresh water. Still sharp and showing no signs of wear.

Ps still feeling safe from sharks, deliverence dudes, and all other boogie men! Wink

$50 from dive shop. Cheaper online.

PPS I got the squared blunt tip so you could (in theory) get it between your skin and line.

PPPS I have also used the tip as a screw driver.

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blowhard

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PostTue Oct 28, 08 8:32 am     Reply with quote

Mark,
Where do you wear it?

I'm vying for as smooth an clean as possible
I just tucked my seat belt knife under my velcro
harness underneath my spreader

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostTue Oct 28, 08 8:34 am     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
Always be prepared...


I friggin love that!! I can jsut see the designers sitting around in a room. "well, what else can we throw in this knife". "sir, how about an antenna" "BRILLIANT!"

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