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jbruxer
Since 24 Jul 2005
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 Fri Jan 11, 08 10:38 am Board Q: Mission 138 or Recoil 136 |
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I have a question for all you Liquid Force riders out there. So I'm looking to get a new board (okay maybe one from last year) and would like to get some opinions about which board would be better for riding primarily at Hood River.
I am 6 feet tall and am just under 200lbs. I've been riding LF boards for ever starting way back in the wakeboard days. Right now I am an intermediate level rider, and would like a board that will work well in choppy water but will still be stiff enough for all around use. Also, I am looking to ride it with bindings since it's much more comfortable for me.
Any thoughts? I don't want to start a brand war, only want to hear opinions of the two.
Many thanks!  |
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Spike
Since 13 May 2007
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Alameda
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 11:02 am |
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| I have a recoil 133 in 136 graphics (graphics are nice because they are bright red on the bottom, makes it easier to spot your board) Never had a problem with chop, even though they market it as a flat-water board. Used it at Stevenson and hood river all summer long, no problems, very nice board indeed. |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 11:44 am |
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I've ridden both with boots and straps. The 136 is going to feel to small with bindings but will feel good with straps. The mission 138 with boots or straps is perfect except that the bottom of the board has all those channels and that makes the board slow and inefficient.
Word on the street is LF has a Mauricio pro model 139 coming out that is based on the Recoil construction. Everyone that's seen it sounds stoked on it. Another option is the Cabrinha Custom 138.
I'm currently on an Element 140 with boots and that works well, but I'm getting kind of annoyed by all those channels and stuff and how much water these boards move when you're riding. |
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 11:44 am |
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I have the 136 08' Recoil...
Ride it anywhere and you'll be good. super pop, and has inserts for LF bindings too! Great all around board, although I haven't had it in swell yet.
I weigh normally 175ish in summer, 185ish in winter, and over 190 when I am laid up b/c of surgery.  
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jbruxer
Since 24 Jul 2005
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Beaverton, OR
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 11:54 am |
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| Spike, Forrest, and Chanson, thanks for all the info! I'm currently riding an older LF board that has the single to double concave and have noticed that it is pretty slow in the water. Not bad for learning, but I need something a little more snappy now. |
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 12:00 pm |
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| Quote: | | pretty slow in the water. |
The bottom of the 08' Recoils is like ferrari in the water. 
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jbruxer
Since 24 Jul 2005
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Beaverton, OR
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 12:06 pm |
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| Forrest wrote: | | The mission 138 with boots or straps is perfect except that the bottom of the board has all those channels and that makes the board slow and inefficient. |
Hmm...on their website, LF says that this is the "fastest water flow available." Do you feel that this is not the case? |
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Pete
Since 29 Oct 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 1:09 pm Re: Board Q: Mission 138 or Recoil 136 |
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| jbruxer wrote: | I have a question for all you Liquid Force riders out there. So I'm looking to get a new board (okay maybe one from last year) and would like to get some opinions about which board would be better for riding primarily at Hood River.
I am 6 feet tall and am just under 200lbs. I've been riding LF boards for ever starting way back in the wakeboard days. Right now I am an intermediate level rider, and would like a board that will work well in choppy water but will still be stiff enough for all around use. Also, I am looking to ride it with bindings since it's much more comfortable for me.
Any thoughts? I don't want to start a brand war, only want to hear opinions of the two.
Many thanks! |
I gotta ask, I am a wakeboarder as well, and would love to have a more secure binding, but how the hell do you get your feet in those things, and still fly your kite? Does it take two hands?
I put the DaKine Raptor heel straps on one of my boards, and it was a real pain to get my feet in on the beach. Once in though, I loved the feel. |
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jbruxer
Since 24 Jul 2005
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Beaverton, OR
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 1:28 pm |
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| Hey Pete! I have the same question myself as I was planning on riding with boots this season. I'm not sure if it was the same for you, but I feel really aqward with just the foot straps. Although, both methods do have their pro's and con's. My thoughts are you would just park the kite slightly off center, sheet out, and put each foot in one at a time. Hopefully I'm making a correct assumption. |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 2:00 pm |
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I do not feel its the case. Anytime you have texture on the bottom of the board it's not going to be as efficient on plane. The 138 works good though, don't get me wrong, just have to ride powered, that's all.
| jbruxer wrote: | | Hmm...on their website, LF says that this is the "fastest water flow available." Do you feel that this is not the case? |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 2:02 pm |
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I just dump my kite to it's fifth line and let it rest in the water. With SLE's just put it down to the side of the window and let it sit there. Just gotta get your boots on quick.
I ride both boots, straps, and strapless... Just depending on what I feel like. Don't lock yourself into one option or the other, just do what you feel like. |
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Pete
Since 29 Oct 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 2:41 pm |
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| jbruxer wrote: | | Hey Pete! I have the same question myself as I was planning on riding with boots this season. I'm not sure if it was the same for you, but I feel really aqward with just the foot straps. Although, both methods do have their pro's and con's. My thoughts are you would just park the kite slightly off center, sheet out, and put each foot in one at a time. Hopefully I'm making a correct assumption. |
When I rode with my heelstraps, I ended up having to sit right on the ground in order to get into the straps, and then inch my way into the water. Not pretty.
Now that I think about it, it wasn't as much as needing to fly the kite, as it was needing solid ground in order to get my feet in the bindings.
Hopefully it will get easier with more practice. |
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jbruxer
Since 24 Jul 2005
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Beaverton, OR
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 2:53 pm |
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Yeah, I always used a little liquid soap in my wakeboard bindings, but I don't think that will work while out in the swell.  |
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Spike
Since 13 May 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 3:24 pm |
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| heel straps are easy to use, I just put the board on with the straps under my feet as if it didn't have heel straps, and when both feet are in I pull the straps behind my ankle. No need for shallow water to put the board on necessarily. Park the kite at the edge of the window, keep a little bit of power so you have something to push against when pulling straps behind your ankle. |
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Pete
Since 29 Oct 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 4:41 pm |
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| Spike wrote: | | heel straps are easy to use, I just put the board on with the straps under my feet as if it didn't have heel straps, and when both feet are in I pull the straps behind my ankle. No need for shallow water to put the board on necessarily. Park the kite at the edge of the window, keep a little bit of power so you have something to push against when pulling straps behind your ankle. |
I must be an idiot, 'cause I couldn't get my feet in the straps without first pulling the heelstraps out. |
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Spike
Since 13 May 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 6:22 pm |
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| I have the LF luxury bindings with the latex straps, so they are pretty thin and flexible, that might make it easier... |
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Sella
Since 21 Apr 2007
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| Fri Jan 11, 08 10:11 pm |
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| Pete I ride with the raptors and launch with them layed over my strap and then as Spike said, stand on them, as you put your foot back in the strap. Once your kite is stable reach down and pull the stap around your heel. I used to use old school bike tubes but I got tired of them ripping easy when I yardsaled. The raptors are thick but after a few times you won't even think twice about it, plus they are not cool to land with. |
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