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dwaynej

Since 09 Sep 2013
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PostMon Mar 24, 14 9:59 pm    Session Fatigue Reply with quote

Hey - I'm new but as I just posted in another response, I have been able to hit the water 2-3 times a week for over the last 6 months taking any bit of wind I could get. My Cloud 17 was a huge part of my off season for which I am thankful.

My sessions are now as long as I can last, and after a good 60-90 minutes powered mowing the lawn, I find leg strength starting to give... Are there any tips to conserving leg strength or is it a matter of building strength through kite boarding and other exercise?

As a side note, focused on step by step progression and current focus is cleaning up my sliding turns which I think should have nailed in another month. 200lbs using a Litewave Wing 153 and have a Cabrinha Tronic 146 standing by. Not sure if stepping down a board size would help or hinder.

Dwayne

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user124

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PostMon Mar 24, 14 11:11 pm    exercise Reply with quote

Kiteboarding can wear you out, especially when you are learning and are not very efficient. Maybe it would help to do some targeted exercises:

http://www.kiteboardingexercises.com/

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dwaynej

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PostMon Mar 24, 14 11:32 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you! I did not know that website existed.

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OG

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PostTue Mar 25, 14 6:45 am     Reply with quote

i joined an xfit gym last may. 3 hour+ sessions were pretty typical last summer. Im sure you'll have similar results if you give it a shot.

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forrest

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PostTue Mar 25, 14 7:13 am     Reply with quote

Thumb's Up Thumb's Up

OG wrote:
i joined an xfit gym last may. 3 hour+ sessions were pretty typical last summer. Im sure you'll have similar results if you give it a shot.

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Slappysan

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PostTue Mar 25, 14 11:40 pm     Reply with quote

I've never had leg fatigue at all, you might be doing something wrong. Usually it's arm fatigue. Unless you are riding waves that is.

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Scriffler

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PostTue Mar 25, 14 11:48 pm     Reply with quote

Dwayne, you sound a bit whiny. Just go kite and when you are tired you can come in and rest. The more you kite, the stronger you get, then have to endure 3 hour cross fit marathons to keep fit. Feel lucky you are pushing yourself.

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dwaynej

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 7:08 am     Reply with quote

Scriffler wrote:
Dwayne, you sound a bit whiny. Just go kite and when you are tired you can come in and rest. The more you kite, the stronger you get, then have to endure 3 hour cross fit marathons to keep fit. Feel lucky you are pushing yourself.


Thanks for the feedback. I was not sure if board size was a factor...

Told myself to "man up" this morning and things should be better now. Lose some weight. Keep kiting. Increase off water exercise is the plan.

Plan to be up your way 4th July.

Dwayne

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kss

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 7:39 am     Reply with quote

dwayne, I had the smaller Wing a few years back, and out of the 10-15 twintips I've owned that board gave me much more quad burn than all the rest by far. From what I remember that board likes to engage the edge pretty much most of the time (rather than plane flat across the water) and the edge is long and with a wide stance the legs are engaged nearly all the time.

I'd look into a shorter and wider board profile, where you don't have to have the full edge engaged to stay upwind. Litewave described the Wing as having a snowboard feel where the whole edge is involved in the carving. I think its a good board for some days and conditions, but mowing the lawn shouldn't be such a workout!

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bulae99

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 8:53 am    Hey Dwayne great post.. Reply with quote

July 4th will be pumping as the gorge usually puts out some strong winds. I get tired when I ride as well.. I'm nursing a weak knee, and was a bit over weight last year 230lbs. My fall has been spent doing some cardio and eating less. I've been biking so much that I've worn out my rear hub, swear to dog!!
I'm the biggest loser!! I've lost 24lbs from just mountain biking 12 miles a day, currently in NM but back in the Gorge June to Sept.

Here are some things that I've observed while teaching people from light wind locals. Waist harnesses can ride up making it tough to get in a good upwind position. A good body position should look like your sitting in a chair, heels engaged and board edging nicely. This is tough if the waist harness rides up on you, so I recommend a seat/waist combo style harness.

High wind kiting usually involves a smaller kite and a board. This means that things tend to happen a little bit faster. Small kites move quickly and small boards turn faster. In general the 130 to 140 board length is good with a 8mtr. to 10mtr. kite depending on weight. You will notice a ton a dudes kiting with surfboards, strapped and unstrapped, and with a bit smaller kite. Once your up on a twin tip and making it up wind and able to turn and ride backside you should get a surf board(slingy).


A strong core, stomach and back, is a good thing to have as well. I like to swim laps as it's good practice for self rescue and good core work as well.

Good luck and if you need some free advice in July pm me.
Cheers

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dwaynej

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 9:16 am     Reply with quote

Thanks!

I take advantage of storms as they blow through so I have been on the beach with (7M/9M) flying gusting 30+ kts.

Based on your feedback, I will add a smaller twin tip to my boards and spend some more time on my smaller boards... I love my Wing.

Looking forward to the 4th July+

Dwayne

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knotwindy

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 1:11 pm     Reply with quote

besides kiting the only exercise i get is
jumping to conclusions
running my mouth
pushing my luck
and throwing a fit

seems like enough Shocked

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bwd

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 7:11 pm     Reply with quote

well, my way of training this year has been winter sessions in a 7mm wetsuit that is too small! Laughing
First couple of sessions I could get no pop.
Wearing the suit was like fighting a giant rubber band.
Last weekend though, I managed a few honest popped jumps and a 3h sesh.
That 4/3 is gonna feel thin next month, when it stops snowing...

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honda1

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 7:56 pm    legs tired? Reply with quote

East solution for you...try mx. Do 4 to 5 half hour motos, going as hard as you can. If you can do that tired legs, tired arms, and anything else tired will be a thing of the past. Nothing better for building stamina.

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macgruber

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 8:55 pm     Reply with quote

I second the board change. Boards of even the same size can be super different. I can hold my old Mako 140 in much higher wind with less fatigue than my 138 squarer board. The stance is a bit narrower and I feel like I'm riding a snowboard on it. If your harness is riding high on your chest, it can seriously ruin your depowerability. Try keeping your kite lower or use a seat harness if you think that might be it. I feel the most secure using Dakine Nitrous shorts but they don't ride toe side as well as a waist.

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dwaynej

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PostWed Mar 26, 14 9:06 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for all the feedback. I do like my Wing... Upwind monster!

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