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Sella
Since 21 Apr 2007
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Doin' The Dalles
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 Thu Jul 25, 13 1:55 pm |
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| Blokt wrote: | | 1surfer wrote: | | It is great to see a new product on the market in an industry of greedy sedentary kite manufacturers who have not progressed kite design, kite manufacturing or developed any thing new in the last 5 years. ( changing colors and canopy profile is not new product development ). Kites have gone stale. Call me when there is something new and exciting on the market. |
Slightly OT, sorry.
Flysurfer just came out with some new ideas for its Cronix LEI.
Those dudes at Flysurfer come up with some pretty good designs, and I'm intrigued with this one.
I'd like some more reviews, from both sides of the house, before I buy though.
Sweet vid at http://vimeo.com/69308014[ |
So you mean Flysurfers new idea is a 3 strut LEI one-pump? Yep....revolutionary.  I wonder how many Slingy's, Cab's, Naish's and LF's they cut up in the back room to make that beauty?
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BeerKite
Since 29 Mar 2011
471 Posts
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| Thu Jul 25, 13 9:31 pm Back on topic |
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Okay, so I am somewhat affiliated with Dynabar and I can get them. I didn't want to hijack this thread as a sales pitch though. But I guess I will anyway, not really.
I'm planing on getting some more but the distributor runs out very fast. In my experience, the Dyneema works best for riding surf or when your going to ride toeside a lot. The bar, frankly, feels a little weird and kinda clunky. What I have done is, use the Dynabar when I'm going to ride surf style and switch to my normal hook when I'm going to ride twin tip.
The Dakine set up is cool too and is much simpler. Both have moving parts and will require pieces to be replaced (rope and bungee on Dynabar and webbing on Dakine). Some of the pros of the Dynabar are: it's a bit more dynamic, meaning there is more movement in the hook, the hook is releasable from the harness (redundant safety) and it comes in 3 sizes. I'm not sure if the Dakine bar has different sizes. As for the sizes, the Large is pretty big (34"-38")and has the most range of movement. If your harness is on the big side, then you'll want to go down a size. The Medium will fit most people and will fit a harness that has some room on the straps, the small is tiny and is probably only suitable for ladies or really tiny waisted people.
Hope this helps, and you can get them direct from 321 Kiteboarding, Air Padre, or if I get some soon I'll post up.
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keithvoncoyote
Since 13 May 2011
49 Posts
The Gorge
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| Fri Jul 26, 13 5:25 am Just got mine in the mail |
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I just got mine in the mail yesterday! I had heard a little about it at thought it sounded cool but no one sells this in Hood River.
A couple weekends ago I was riding with my GF's father who has one. I took a few laps using his harness/dynabar and it blew my mind. I'm a proficient toeside rider as is but it really made a huge difference. He had the freestyle bar, with the kink in the center, and wishes he had the wavebar w/out the kink. I didn't notice or mind it but I am going to try riding just the dynema rope before I install the wavebar that came with mine.
Needless to say I ordered one ASAP after trying it out. Got it from 321 kiteboarding, called the guy to ask about sizing and he is a cool dude. Very helpful and informative.
Now here's hoping it blows this weekend!
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Fri Jul 26, 13 5:55 am Re: Back on topic |
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| F-One NW wrote: | | ...Some of the pros of the Dynabar are:....the hook is releasable from the harness (redundant safety) |
I love my Dynabar. I am also playing with some poor mans versions for fun too.
Are you referring to the red ball and pin? I have the V7. I am not sure if there is a later model with a different QR. Jaystore/Dynabar has stated that the red ball and pin should not be considered a QR when under load because it won't release.
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2375030&hilit=hook&start=40
| jaystore wrote: | ......The release system on DYNABAR V7 isn't a QR safety system, it can be used only when for example you have kite line tangled on it but no big pull like when you fall in waves (the bungee should be detached before going in water). The pin that locks is impossible to pull when the kite is pulling, this avoids unwanted release when you jump (on snow can be a drama).
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BeerKite
Since 29 Mar 2011
471 Posts
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| Fri Jul 26, 13 9:02 pm |
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| Yes, exactly. I should have clarified. The pin release is exactly as stated in your post.
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Blokt
Since 17 Nov 2008
196 Posts
Hamlin rocks, doody-root-tuders!
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| Sat Jul 27, 13 9:24 pm |
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| Sella wrote: | | So you mean Flysurfers new idea is a 3 strut LEI one-pump? Yep....revolutionary. I wonder how many Slingy's, Cab's, Naish's and LF's they cut up in the back room to make that beauty? |
Well.......It may just be a bunch of new product hype, but click on "Features" and see a couple of "new" things:
http://www.flysurfer.com/produkte/kites/cronix/
True I am a biased FS addict, but this does sound pretty interesting.
Flysurfer does a lot of research when making their products, but stealing ideas probably wouldn't be very profitable.
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lewmt
Since 04 Aug 2010
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| Sun Jul 28, 13 4:01 am |
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I'm loving the dynabar I got & for long runs toeside in snow it allows the free-flow feeling you'd have snowboarding some endless powder field....been a game changer for me. I don't get a lot of opp. to ride real surf but when I did it was a game changer there too.
The only wish I have is that the rope weren't quite as loose as you have to really work at staying sheeted out sometimes. Maybe my arms are too short. Has anyone re-knotted the rope or made an adjustment that works well for bringing the bar a little closer?
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mystery curd
Since 14 Jun 2010
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| Sun Jul 28, 13 7:25 am |
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Are any of these set ups burly enough for boosting? Or is that the trade off... toe side bliss or fly high? Anyone have input on which version works for the best of both worlds?
Windance had the Dakine version earlier this season but I passed thinking instead to pick up a Dynabar...
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Sun Jul 28, 13 9:33 am |
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| mystery curd wrote: | Are any of these set ups burly enough for boosting? Or is that the trade off... toe side bliss or fly high? Anyone have input on which version works for the best of both worlds?
Windance had the Dakine version earlier this season but I passed thinking instead to pick up a Dynabar... |
Jump masters may feel a difference, but,I have not felt a significant loss in ability to boost. Yesterday, I was overpowered and experienced some of my highest and longest jumps.
I am using it with an Engine harness. My harness can stay locked in place partly because I am not using a fixed hook.
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mystery curd
Since 14 Jun 2010
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| Sun Jul 28, 13 6:17 pm |
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SalmonSlayer,
Which bar are you using? Also, just checked out the Engine harnesses...very interesting.
Thanks,
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Sun Jul 28, 13 6:23 pm |
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| mystery curd wrote: | SalmonSlayer,
Which bar are you using? Also, just checked out the Engine harnesses...very interesting.
Thanks, |
Dynabar V7 with dyneema line
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1surfer
Since 20 Apr 2010
355 Posts
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 8:24 am Red Ball |
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What is the bar release actually for ? Can I disable it ? Should I ? ( prolly never use it )
Would I ever want to run my leash from the ring ? Is the black bungee really necessary ?
I would like to get rid of the ring, red ball and possibly even the black bungee just to trim thing down. The ring makes a "ching ching" noise like spurs when I ride and it makes me feel like a cowboy. Yeee Ha ! 
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Jonpnw
Since 22 Jul 2010
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 8:26 am Re: Red Ball |
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| 1surfer wrote: | | The ring makes a "ching ching" noise like spurs when I ride and it makes me feel like a cowboy. Yeee Ha ! |
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barfly
Since 31 Mar 2005
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Portland
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 9:06 am |
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Interested to see if any of you have tried a rash guard under your harness. I use it all the time for real onshore days here, lots of toe side riding. Seems to work great.
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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Hood River
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 11:52 am |
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| barfly wrote: | | Interested to see if any of you have tried a rash guard under your harness. I use it all the time for real onshore days here, lots of toe side riding. Seems to work great. |
if you mean it allows your whole harness to slide around - instead of just the hook - that may be ok for you.......but it took me 100 days of kiting for my waist harness to comform to my body shape.... the last thing i want is the wide back support to slide around and the lumbar support to be under my arm pits.
I have my 6" bar mounted on a 10 inch piece of webbing..... the bar slides from side to side..... cost me $20.00. Works great.
P.S. I bought the Dakine slider for $70.00. It's too wide. I have a 33 inch waist and the metal bar goes from one hip to my other..... and it doesn't slide! It's engineered with too tight a tolerance and it's too tight to slide on the webbing.
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soona
Since 27 Sep 2009
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 12:11 pm |
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I also got the Dakine slider bar but had the opposite experience . . . not only did it slide too easily, but because it was loose the entire webbing/bar assembly pulled a few inches away from the harness, forming a floppy "V" shape with the hook at the point.
So I opened the back and tried to tighten it up but it seemed like the webbing was as tight as could be . . . I couldn't reef it any further. I took it off and haven't tried it since.
Agree with Laird that the length of the bar is too long for my 33" waist.
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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Hood River
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 12:14 pm |
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| soona wrote: | I also got the Dakine slider bar but had the opposite experience . . . not only did it slide too easily, but because it was loose the entire webbing/bar assembly pulled a few inches away from the harness, forming a floppy "V" shape with the hook at the point.
So I opened the back and tried to tighten it up but it seemed like the webbing was as tight as could be . . . I couldn't reef it any further. I took it off and haven't tried it since.
Agree with Laird that the length of the bar is too long for my 33" waist. |
exactly - it was too sloppy... i tightened the webbing and now it won't slide. the only way it will slide is if it's adjusted so the hook is stretched out 4 inches away from your harness. not how i like to ride.
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