Chicken loop unhookes????

dancingwind · Since 18 Jul 2007 321 Posts Obsessed

So here I am yesterday boosting a bit, suddenly half way through the jump while still being launched in the air my chicken loop unhookes and a big splash follows!! The loop does not come apart, only unhookes. Third time this happens this week. First two times as I was launching and turning the kite to the opposite side of the wind window while under load. At first I thought maybe I placed the chicken finger over the loop instead under, but I usually double check everything especially the chicken loop and finger setup before launching. And I know that I triple checked it before the boosting sesh.

I'm thinking,
_maybe the c loop got stretched over time,
_maybe the c finger is too short for the loop,
_is the c finger getting pushed out of the hook/loop somehow by my body movements/rotations,
_Is the harnesses hook angle not sufficient enough?

What do you guys think?

I ride 2011 RPM comp-stick bar and 2010 mystic warrior harness.

Lurk · Since 04 Apr 2009 355 Posts Obsessed

I have the same harness CL no problems, this can happen with any set up. Your CL looks less stretched than mine. So yes to all the reasons, but thats life be more aware..

ldhr · Since 21 Jul 2009 1488 Posts Hood River XTreme Poster

if it happens once and only once - forget about it.
if the problems repeat then replace your chicken loop. ss switched to a smaller loop in 2011 or 2012 - not sure from your pic if you have the old larger or newer small loop.

its_kite:30 · Since 29 May 2009 108 Posts White Salmon/ Beaverton Stoked

This has happened to my wife and I a couple times for both of us. We ride Rallys so its the same bar as you. I doubble check and test before going out. I think it's due to a short donkey dick! Laughing

J_Matic · Since 14 Oct 2011 158 Posts InDaHo Stoked

Happened to me this spring on a 2010 Flexifoil bar
Swapped out the CL and DD and good to go since...

Sometime's a man's parts just stretch a bit. Makes me think of this:

Link

Justsmile · Since 20 Jul 2009 1527 Posts Not Portland XTreme Poster

i have the same set up and have not encountered the issue yet. Knock on wood!!!

Sella · Thu Jul 26, 12 12:56 pm

Never a problem with my 2011 compstick and Dakine harness. Your DD is plenty long enough.....maybe to the point it's actually getting pushed out as you move/rotate.
I think it's;

- Is the harnesses hook angle not sufficient enough?

Compare your hook angle to other's as it may be bent??? It could also be as you ride your harness loosens up and allows for more CL slack/upward movement compared to when you check it during pre-launch.

I've blown out so many new SS leashes something's up with metal quality when my climber friend, who has hands of steel, can bend the clips. Just saying.

chrissmack · Since 08 Jun 2005 526 Posts portland Addicted

you"re pulling the bar in too far and the loop falls out?? is that what you are saying?

Weaz · Since 23 May 2012 360 Posts Beaverton Obsessed

dangling upside down?

Occupied Columbia · Since 12 Nov 2011 376 Posts Columbia City Obsessed

I have the same 2011 kite and bar. I think I know why it happens. this will sound like a joke, but, it's the curvature of the donkey dick. if I put the tip curved up it won't slide down when slack. if the tip curves down it can slide down just far enough to bend the donkey dick over when the chicken loop gets back under pressure.

groundclown · Since 12 May 2007 135 Posts Hood River Stoked

Your hook seems to be lacking a little curve but I don't think that is the issue. When sending the kite and sheeting in with your bar I believe you are YANKING the bar in too hard pulling the loop off of the hook momentarily allowing it to spin sidways straddling the end of the hook and then folding the DD and popping of off under presure. I have seen this happen many times with almost any setup. Don't yank the bar in so hard and all will be fine.

dancingwind · Since 18 Jul 2007 321 Posts Obsessed

Thanks everyone for the input.

Looking at the CL it does look stretched. It also looks relatively big in relation to some of the other newer cl/cf setups. I was checking out Ocean Rodeo's and BEST's CL setups and their CL is half the size of the CF. It looks like the new trend is much smaller CLs.

I will compare the hook angle with other harnesses to see if there is a noticeable difference. The assumption that a loose harness might force the CF out of the CL is valid as well, especially if the CL is overstretched and under load.

I don't dangle upside down so I don't think that's the issue yet! And I don't usually sheet in/pull the bar in too much. The curvature of the CF might be playing a part here. It is pretty curved. I will experiment with placing the curvature up and see what happens. Makes you think though, if they could make a CF with a 90 degree ending or a U shape ending it would almost guarantee that the CL wouldn't come unhooked.

wylieflyote · Fri Jul 27, 12 5:41 am

As soon as I saw your post I knew it was a Mystic harness and hook before opening the images. I had the same trouble until I switched the hook to Dakine on my Mystic Warrior. I fly Naish and this problem existed, so I believe it's the shorter hook at issue. And yes, it is from yanking in hard too. The fix for me was easier just to changeout the hook.

wakeup · Since 11 Sep 2005 328 Posts always Obsessed

a big chicken loop allows you to unhook and hook back in easier, that is all

dancingwind · Since 18 Jul 2007 321 Posts Obsessed

dcfordo · Since 19 May 2011 60 Posts The Dalles

I had my Compstick mysteriously release from my mystic hook the other day. I thought it was a one time fluke, but now I will look at the setup more carefully.

It happened in the middle of a heel to toe transition, so maybe I pulled to hard to turn the kite. I thought maybe I had somehow forgotten to use my donkey, but after all of these posts, there must be some way it is coming out.

J_Matic · Since 14 Oct 2011 158 Posts InDaHo Stoked

Flyote has it straight....my issue was also experienced on a Mystic II harness w/the shorter hook. Shoulda replaced it too but N/P since replacing the CL as a sidenote.

Stretchy pants recommendation still applies.