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Aeolus
Since 20 Apr 2010
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Blowhard knows the poetry.
It's a thinking person's game out there.
there will be blood.....
(a ben wilson composition of them sort-a-killing it...some good leash action in there....vimeo 3:45min)
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pjc
Since 06 Mar 2005
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 12:56 pm |
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| cosmodog wrote: | | Question for peeps who use a leash in the surf - does the leash ever get caught in the kite lines after a going over the falls? |
The only time I went badly over the falls and got a bit of the sushi roll I was leashless.
But that experience was something along the lines of "LINES LINES LINES GET ME OUT OF THESE MOTHERPHUKING LINES" so I think it's safe to say adding any more difficult to cut, string-like components to the equation would have only made things worse.
Blowhard and I have a standing disagreement over the best way to troubleshoot when the bottom falls out of your world in big surf. I say bodysurf the mushburgers in, his feelings are more along of the lines of duckdiving and then breathing in between waves, like proper surfers do. I don't think we'll ever agree with each other, but I have had positive experiences emergency bodysurfing the mushburgers in without a leash, and with a leash I likely would have taken some hard, hard blows, and that's the deal breaker for me with re:to leashes. But on a small day, with a helmet, riding in a conservative sort of way, seems about as low risk as anything else.
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BigR
Since 05 Jul 2005
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White Salmon
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 1:31 pm |
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I think San Carlos waves are slow enough you can easily get out of most jams with using a board leash and not get tangled up.
Definitely worth it there.
I used one early from '98 to '02 , and never a close call. But I haven't used one since.
Did loose my kite once down in SC, when the wind suddenly picked up and the
kite leash broke..... found it all washed up a mile down @ past chile bowl after a pole surfer chased it down, but didn't loose the board
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blowhard
Since 26 Dec 2005
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Windward
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 2:02 pm |
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just a little Davy Jones locker humor
when rather be holding on to my surfboard,(up!!!)
I got my leash all figure now ,
now gotta head and half
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tstansbury
Since 06 Jun 2006
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Rowena and P.C
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 2:49 pm |
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| I was a little late to the lip once and went over the fall the board managed to go up and thru the bar and the leash sheeted it in for me. As soon as I came up I just unhooked the leash and unwraped it. It was not near as big a pain as trying to body drag after a board wo a leash into the inside at the chilli bowl in san carlos and then haveing the kite fall and the white water draging me into the cliff.
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 3:19 pm |
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didnt think about wearing a leash till GeneK pointed out that the guys in Western Australia wore them when kitesurfing in front of shallow/exposed reef
the leash is prob better than trying to fetch your board off the reef barefoot in 6m conditions (wishing i put on my sneaks)
most spots are sandy beach breaks up here - no big deal bodysufing after the board to the beach
- tho did put one on in Peru in barreling surf with a sideshore rip where my loose board sat in the impact zone and was not getting pushed to shore
Obviously Ben Willson and crew are really hard to kill
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pjc
Since 06 Mar 2005
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 4:53 pm |
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| tstansbury wrote: | | I was a little late to the lip once and went over the fall the board managed to go up and thru the bar and the leash sheeted it in for me. |
While it must have been a pleasant surprise to see one piece of gear nicely steer a completely unrelated piece of gear, the phrase that comes to mind is "your mileage may vary".
I'd rather wear steeltoed sh!tkickers on my feet than attach both a board and a kite to my person in anything bigger head high. But my huevos are riding close and tight in anything bigger than head high (even though it needs to be at least that big for blowhard to start wearing his sh!t eating grin...)
I was wondering if Gman leashed up on certain occasions though .... his helmet is too intense for a mere prop...
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 6:31 pm |
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| pjc wrote: | | his helmet is too intense for a mere prop... |
Nothing about Gman is mere prop.  Seriously, this is a guy they should do a special on. A week in the life of Gman... THAT could be a great movie documentary!
Great to see the perspective from the coastal guys on leashes. Obviously, there are times at the coast when the benefits of a leash may outweigh the negatives. What I love about these guys though, is that they don't just wear a leash because it's convenient. They've though about the risks and chosen what they feel is the best option. That's intelligent risk management.
OK, let's narrow it down. Is a leash ever a good option inland? Specifically the Columbia river? It still seems to me a Go Joe will always win, but I'd love to hear well thought out alternatives. "Just because" doesn't count.
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pjc
Since 06 Mar 2005
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 8:28 pm |
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yeah, I've generally assumed there was more to Gman than meets the eye.
I'm guessing his full life story would be on par with that underrated flick, "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind".
there is really a reason to wear a leash in a river? guys, it's a river. wtf, your worried a sturgeon is going to get you? once you've survived the launch i think you're basically in the clear. (i still have PTSD from launching in the gorge, you can keep it)
but, you know, some people will wear a leash the way my kid wore his diaper until his 4th freaking birthday. i was probably that guy for a little while (albeit among real sharks, not that silly looking fish). who cares, as long as it comes off eventually?
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Dern
Since 11 Jul 2010
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| Mon Jul 09, 12 8:33 pm |
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| Nak wrote: | | but I'd love to hear well thought out alternatives. |
Neodymium magnets implanted into your heels. Opposite pole magnet stuck into the footpad.
I see no flaws in this plan.
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wakeup
Since 11 Sep 2005
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 7:07 am |
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| leashes have their place if you know what your doing
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MarkWorth
Since 02 May 2011
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Hood River
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 8:03 am |
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The kiter who is capable of bodysurfing up wind can make the decision as to the potential danger to them self and others of leashing the board and not using a leash. However for a beginner to use a leash in the Columbia because they have not taken the time to learn to bodysurf up wind is unnecessarily dangerous.
Please learn to body surf upwind so that you can make the choice, instead of using the leash by default.
This link will help anyone who has not learned to bodysurf upwind:
http://gorgekiteboardschool.com/cgi-shl/12-online.pl
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ronp
Since 05 Jul 2007
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west linn
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 8:52 am |
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I'm not surfer so can't comment on leashes in real waves. However, I think anyone new kiteboarder needs to hear the right message and know that leashes shouldn't be used in the river. It is an unnecessary hazard and doesn't give any advantage if someone has taken a lesson and knows how to body drag.
If someone is worried about losing a board then they can just kite upriver of others and someone will almost always help them get the board (if needed). I've never seen the Dangler not retrieve a board if someone lost one while he is out.
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wylieflyote
Since 30 Jun 2006
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 8:56 am |
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| MarkWorth wrote: | | Please learn to body surf upwind so that you can make the safe choice, instead of using the leash by default. |
Are you reading this, PDXmonkey? How come I'M the only one called out as the "King of DUH"? If you search your own posts they are also full of duh. The only guiltless in this offense is travisbicklerex.
Speaking of DUh. I drove by the Punto San Carlos sign off Hwy #1 in BCN last winter... How many more hours to San Carlos is the drive after the turn-off? Do-able in a 2X4?
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kitezilla
Since 22 Jun 2006
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 9:22 am |
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| Dern wrote: | | Nak wrote: | | but I'd love to hear well thought out alternatives. |
Neodymium magnets implanted into your heels. Opposite pole magnet stuck into the footpad.
I see no flaws in this plan. |
I can see no flaws either, and, because it will be fun, I am already working on a technique, to get you unstuck, when you get too close to the "Red Nun" buoy.
Magnets don't stick to stainless steel, so you should be OK around the big stainless steel tanks, back at the Full Sail Brewery, where I imagine you came up with the idea. I know that I have gotten a lot of good ideas there, myself.
And speaking of "good ideas"... Nak, you are about the only one of us who could actually invent a decent leash, that would make way fewer attempts on our lives, than the crap that is being sold at kite stores. You are the "idea" man, and the inventor.
So, I quess I would add a number (15) reason to the list of reasons to use a leash: For beta testing prototypes of a "not-so-dangerous" leash. 
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pjc
Since 06 Mar 2005
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 9:30 am |
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Can we stop offering sensible advice and get back to the part where the dude's kite was being flown by the dudes board?
I'm still bugging over that - I need to process it more.
Can I drive my car with my coffee? I actually tried this once, it ended badly, but maybe I had the wrong mug.
Can we put snakes on the plane? I thought that was bad, but maybe I was misinformed.
Dogs and cats, living together....
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cosmodog
Since 06 Oct 2005
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| Tue Jul 10, 12 9:33 am |
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| Quote: | | I drove by the Punto San Carlos sign off Hwy #1 in BCN last winter... How many more hours to San Carlos is the drive after the turn-off? Do-able in a 2X4? |
Its only 38 miles of potholes and washboard. 2X4 is fine unless it rains, but you do need some clearance and a real spare. My friend managed to put a hole in his oil pan by driving the road to fast and flats are quite common.
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