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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
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I give out bad advice.
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 Fri Jul 06, 12 6:17 am Leashes are not good, Don't use them, please don't. |
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| Quote: | Want to Buy Retractable Leash Reply with quote
Anyone have a retractable leash they do not use anymore in the Gorge? I need one. New ones are $70 and I don't want to spend that for the short time I will use one.
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Leashes are not safe. Leashes cause horrific injuries to kiter's http://www.kiteboardleash.com/index.php?page=testimonials
In the past I used a retractable leash as did many other folks on the forum. We were lucky to never get hurt. The above website has graphic proof as to how leashes can kick you in the face, literally.
The idea that a leash will save you time is true, but it comes at too great a risk. Both PASA/IKO and all the schools in the USA don't allow the use of leashes due to the risk of severe catastrophic, wicked injury associated with them.
That being said what is the option to using a leash? Upwind body drag is the preferred method of board retrieval. And it's really fun to practice, really!!
Please don't use a leash,
Thanks,
Ron
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barfly
Since 31 Mar 2005
1214 Posts
Portland
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 7:17 am |
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OK boolay 
KITEBOARDING IS DANGEROUS (news flash) |
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Weaz
Since 23 May 2012
360 Posts
Beaverton
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 7:27 am |
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| if you're worried about loosing your board, get a go-joe, or do a home made go-joe by using a wheelbarrow inner tube in your boards handle. it'll flip it over and let you see where it is... along with pushing it a bit downwind. You're gonna need to know how to body drag any way... |
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achen
Since 03 Apr 2012
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MarkWorth
Since 02 May 2011
149 Posts
Hood River
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 9:01 am |
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Three things you can do to avoid loosing the board:
If you are falling off the board, fly the kite. If the kite is in the sky you can get to the board. If the kite is in the water and you cannot relaunch you will not get to the board. If you keep the kite in the air and dive it to the edge of the window on the side you were moving toward, you will not be pulled up in to the sky. Instead, you can bodysurf to the side, actually moving up wind as you slow down. Then bring the kite over the top and you will find the board across the wind waiting for you. (If the kite crashes when you are riding, keep the board with you by holding it or pushing it out in front as you use both hands to relaunch.)
If you separate from the board with the kite down in the water, take a bearing on the drift line of the board. If you identify a line that the board will drift down by lining up two objects on shore, you will know where to look for your board after relaunching your kite.
When bodysurfing up wind keep both hands on the bar in light wind and do a soft power stroke. When bodysurfing up wind in wind strong enough to park the kite, use one hand to fly the kite and put the other hand on your hip palm forward. This creates an edge to take you up wind. You need to control the role of your body by deflecting the bar left and right beneath you. This keeps you at the correct angle and keeps you from going belly up.
You can see a complete description in the on line school on my website:
http://gorgekiteboardschool.com/cgi-shl/12-online.pl?Touch=&Source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kiteboardhoodriver.com%2F&ResNumber=&AccCode=-1&PageNumber=Bodysurfing
Leave the board on shore and invest twenty minutes on learning to bodysurfing well and you should be good to go.
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Mize
Since 28 Mar 2011
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 9:40 am |
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Thanks Mark...
| Quote: | | If you are falling off the board, fly the kite. If the kite is in the sky you can get to the board. If the kite is in the water and you cannot relaunch you will not get to the board. If you keep the kite in the air and dive it to the edge of the window on the side you were moving toward, you will not be pulled up in to the sky. Instead, you can bodysurf to the side, actually moving up wind as you slow down. Then bring the kite over the top and you will find the board across the wind waiting for you |
This was the best advice I was ever given for quickly retrieving my board. Riding strapless since day one I seem to lose my board everytime I fall. Making this tip a habit, by continuing to body drag in the direction I was riding (Typically away from my board) by the time I bring my kite over the top I can usually recover my board on the first tack. |
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wylieflyote
Since 30 Jun 2006
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Puget Sound & Wa. Coast
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 10:05 am |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Sasquatch
Since 09 Mar 2005
2102 Posts
PNW
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 4:43 pm DurrrHerp! |
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I don't use a leash because they are dangerous. I also don't body drag either because I live by the Golden Rule and know Jesus will pickup my board and bring it back to me; even if I'm not kiting at Rufus. But in the event Jesus doesn't show, I plan to just laugh it off.
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-26539.html |
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Cannon
Since 13 Sep 2010
73 Posts
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 8:03 pm |
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"Could you also use one of those kids arm floats like this?"
Tried the arm floaties, not quite big enough to flip the board. |
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registered
Since 12 Jul 2005
1319 Posts
tsunami
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 8:21 pm |
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and you hugely disagreed at first hmmmmm
are you credible... 
how many years did it take for it to get drilled into you. |
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
615 Posts
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 9:10 pm |
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i still disagree
although you all seem like you want to help and are intensely adamant and unyielding in your opinions
i think there are times and places where leashes are appropriate and a reel leash can be made safe enough if you want to bother.
sorry to be that guy |
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pjc
Since 06 Mar 2005
649 Posts
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| Fri Jul 06, 12 9:53 pm |
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I once slipped in the shower, now I don't bathe.
I rode tons with a leash, never had a problem. Gave it up, and the helmet. mainly due to peer pressure.
Right after, I landed a jump funny and cut my foot wide open. Only kiting injury I ever had.
You're for sure safer without the leash, but this topic does have a "don't do drugs, mkay" component to it. |
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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
1691 Posts
I give out bad advice.
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| Sat Jul 07, 12 5:55 am I guess the premise here is that |
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maybe, just maybe it could benefit somebody besides the regulars, lol.
I guess we are limited to the topic of kiteboarding on the post, but sometimes I enjoy branching out a bit.
Get a bath mat, maybe?
And, don't do drugs before you shower?
Maybe?
Cheers
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D-Krep It Kiter
Since 18 Jul 2011
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| Sat Jul 07, 12 7:10 am Re: I guess the premise here is that |
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| knotwindy wrote: | i still disagree
although you all seem like you want to help and are intensely adamant and unyielding in your opinions
i think there are times and places where leashes are appropriate and a reel leash can be made safe enough if you want to bother.
sorry to be that guy |
That's ok... you're right, its a personal decision. Just went through this with a buddy of mine who is learning to kite, and now wants to start using a leash. Tried to talk him out of it, but he's adamant, and ultimately, its his decision.
| bulae99 wrote: | maybe, just maybe it could benefit somebody besides the regulars, lol.
I guess we are limited to the topic of kiteboarding on the post, but sometimes I enjoy branching out a bit. |
Post this kind of stuff in response to someone's inquiry, instead of *insert trumpet herald here* "And now, another important message from you're everyday kiteboarding superguy Bulae99!"... otherwise, we could all just start posting our do-gooder threads... "Please please, always wear a helmet... pfd... whistle... pack condoms & ky when you go to Rooster..." etc. It gets old pretty quickly. |
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forrest
Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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| Sat Jul 07, 12 7:25 am |
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It has wider effects than just "you getting beaned in the head". Like I stated in the other thread in the classified section:
| Quote: | | If you go out and kill yourself, you're fucking it up for the rest of us. The local decision makers will feel vulnerable to liability lawsuits. Insurance premiums will go through the roof. Access will likely get clamped down on. |
It's not just a personal decision. It's a decision that has an effect on statistics.
Learning to body drag properly, which just means spending an extra couple hours doing it, will solve the entire issue.
Almost everyone on here has done it, before there was a large enough body of experts to say, fuck that, it's going to kill you. Now there is, and we're not just saying that, we're saying "don't fuck it up for us".
One more thing, body dragging is the hardest part of learning to kiteboard, but it's the only thing that will give you 6-pack abs!  |
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kitezilla
Since 22 Jun 2006
453 Posts
gorge
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| Sat Jul 07, 12 7:31 am |
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Not many reasons to use a board leash in the Gorge, but if anyone wants to explore the subject further, here is a good starting point. Follow the related links for discussion of other aspects of the subject. It gets interesting when kiters start to share the same waters as real surfers, who are bound by city ordinances to use leashes, for the protection of others.
I think that a good case can be made for the need for a "safe" leash. There are lots of problems to be solved in doing this, so I wish the engineers the best of luck in their endeavor.
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2369394&p=692115 |
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