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pjc
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ecameron
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Sun Jun 03, 12 9:27 pm |
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Did someone say safe, drug companies do not care people, never did never will. I used to work in jersey not for these guys, but almost a worse one....
Bayer Documents: AIDS Tainted Blood Killed Thousands of Hemophiliacs
Thu, 22 May 2003
An examination of internal Bayer company documents by The New York Times reveals that the company was engaged in unsavory, probably criminal marketing practices. The documents reveal that Bayer continued to sell contaminated blood plasma causing thousands of hemophiliac patients to be infected with AIDS. The company continued to sell the contaminated blood in Asia for over a year when it had already introduced a safer, heated blood plasma version in the US and Europe in February 1984.
The documents examined by the Times provide evidence of unrestrained corrupt practices by a pharmaceutical industry giant. According to The Times, records suggest that the reason for continuing to sell an AIDS infected blood product, was to get rid of inventory and "the company hoped to preserve the profit margin from 'several large fixed-price contracts.'"
This previously uninvestigated case demonstrates how this industry's lies and crimes are shielded by officials at the Food and Drug Administration. The Times reports that in 1985 FDA's Dr. Harry Meyer willingly helped Bayer cover up "one of the worst drug-related medical disasters in history." Meyer suggested that the issue should be "quietly solved without alerting the Congress, the medical community and the public." This culture of accommodation continues to prevail at the FDA.
The case also demonstrates Bayer's racial elitism. Its lethal marketing policies disregard human lives. The mother of a 22 year old hemophiliac who was killed by Bayer's tainted product in Hong Kong put it this way: "they did not care about the lives in Asia. It was racial discrimination."
Just saying, cost them some money, but they made way more.... |
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pjc
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Sun Jun 03, 12 9:47 pm |
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some of my best friends work for drug companies - that business isn't perfect, and has some real problems and conflicts of interest, and when we get together we have spirited, but reasonable and well informed arguments about this
not sure what ecameron's blather has to do with inexpensive vaccines at your local pharmacy that can save babies from dying. i'm guessing nothing.
it's probably worth noting that the hemapholia has been around since forever, and the life expetancy of a hemophiliac is waaaaayyyy longer than it was 100 years ago, and large organizations (including some companies, including Bayer) are part of the reason why
the interwebs - so many nincompoops, so little time |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 9:44 am |
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My point was the inept was correct that big pharm sends bad chemistry to the third world. They do, it is fact.
Infected antibiotics sometimes with false labeling is commonplace, almost an industry standard.
Oh and the people who make vaccines are the same people, yet you pjc, seems to think they are made by well-wishing gnomes with your best interest in mind.
And because hemophiliacs have a shorter life expectancy they deserve this to be done to them, you're f*cked up son. |
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Mon Jun 04, 12 9:47 am |
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obviously there hasnt been enough wind and the natives are restless. sure will be cool when we're all stoked, friends with each other again, and this forum goes back to being a kiteboarding forum |
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pjc
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Mon Jun 04, 12 10:41 am |
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ecameron wrote: |
And because hemophiliacs have a shorter life expectancy they deserve this to be done to them, you're f*cked up son. |
actually i am f*cked up, pops. i am a reverse hemophiliac (high clotter). i have had many long meanderaing conversations with a hemo-specialist-doc about all this, as he was trying to convince me, unsuccessfully, to give up "dangerous" hobbies like kiting.
so i perhaps know more about blood diseases and their treatment than you, dad.
what can i say? i'm sorry you're an idiot? i am sorry about that. |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 10:49 am |
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basically, there is no such thing as a "fucked up Vaccine", here or abroad. there are like 0.0001% risk and 0.00000001% risk vaccines, and some that they thought were the latter and turned out to be the former, so they recalled it, but no "really fucked up Vaccines"
and i'm the idiot. did you even read the article? |
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pjc
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Mon Jun 04, 12 10:53 am |
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the "article" (actually a bunch of text that you could just be making up) that has basically nothing to do with nak's thread (get a cheap vaccine, help yourself, help some babies)?
no, i didn't follow you into your weird dark fantasy world, because im not a shrink or a therapist
whatever, leaving the thread, you're going to spew evil nonsense all day i assume.
back to the original point - thanks for posting on this nak - hope you feel better soon and at least get a ski season |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 10:53 am |
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Oh and i meant "son" in the urban vernacular.....
I might be younger than you... |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 10:57 am |
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oh please, search bayer infected blood and lawsuit.
Boy howdy. Making it up. |
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pjc
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Mon Jun 04, 12 11:22 am |
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blood (infected or not) and vaccines are nowhere near the same thing.
non-idiots are aware of this - dad
im sorry you have some weird mental disease that causes you to hijack a public service thread that's about making the world safer for little little kids, and and instead steer it into some 30+ year old scandal that has zero relevance, and thus distract from the original purpose.
seek help |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 11:33 am |
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I need help. Im not telling anyone to take or not take vaccines. I am stating known facts that you won't read.
You went after inept with false info, also not my fault. That is why i responded.
Only trying to keep this fact based.
Chemistry is great, but not safe in the hands of profit minded people.
If you cant see this is all chemistry the larger picture is not being seen.
Maybe to close to the woods to see the trees....
Telling people there is nothing to fear, well that is crazy. |
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pjc
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Mon Jun 04, 12 11:42 am |
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there is no such thing as a "fucked up Vaccine", here or abroad, not hardly ever in history, and certainly not in the last 20 years.
vaccines are not blood. airplanes are not cars. boats are not trees. vaccines are not blood. you have nothing to fear from vaccines. nothing. nothing. nothing. |
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ecameron
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pjc
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Mon Jun 04, 12 11:56 am |
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" These claims were later generally discredited, but some U.S. lawsuits against vaccine makers won substantial awards;"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court#National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act
Special place being set up in hell for the greed heads who go around mind f@cking gullible people over the most effective childhood safety technology in the history of mankind
very very special place |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 12:01 pm |
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tell that to the parents of the 9 year old in georgia
look up horowitz, gonna go with his opinion over yours.
Tufts, Harvard..., or wikipedia hmmm |
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ecameron
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Mon Jun 04, 12 12:04 pm |
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By 1999 the average claim took two years to resolve, and 42% of resolved claims were awarded compensation, as compared with 23% for medical malpractice claims through the tort system.
from your article, do you read these things at all....
higher rate than malpractice suits |
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