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mikie
Since 06 Nov 2011
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tautologies
Since 24 Aug 2006
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Oahu
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 Mon Nov 28, 11 9:14 pm |
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NOPE. I don;t think a 5th line kite will work. Well it isn't as much the 5th line as it is the shape of the kite. Most 5th line kites are not flat enough and does not have enough depower.
However, you can try and then report back 
Apart from that the method works really well. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Mon Nov 28, 11 11:05 pm |
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What Alex said.  I've used this technique all over the world, It works great with a lot of kites. I have tried it with some kites where it doesn't work so well. You need to check the kites first to see if they're stable on their wing tip on the ground. When you're out in the water, let your kite down on it's edge and leave it there. How well does it stay there? Is it stable? A little bouncing up and down is OK, but the kite shouldn't bounce more than 5 or 6 feet in the air--and then only if the wind is gusty or squirrely. If it wants to pop up into the sky on it's own, the kite isn't a good candidate for this technique.
Kites with out a lot of depower available at the bar are risky for this. If the kite powers up when nobody is controlling it... This technique works better with the kite in the water than on land. It's easier for it to move back and forth in reaction to wind direction changes. If the wind is squirrelly or changing directions a lot, this can be a bit sketchy. The kite can fall down on it's LE, not too bad, or get pointed into the sky and take off--can be pretty bad. With nice, clean, wind this is a great trick to have in your bag. |
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 7:34 am |
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| like they said, depends on the kite for a 5th line or not. works great with a North Rebel 5th line. the only thing to be careful with is if the kite does get away and power up, that large cheap beaner will probably not be strong enough to hold the kite safely. i have seen thme bend and break, get a real caribeaner. |
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kenja
Since 19 Jun 2008
179 Posts
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 7:37 am |
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| I do it with 5 line kites all the time (North Rebels and Vegas'). It's the safest way to self launch in my opinion. It's also a great way to self land in places that are too tight to drop your kite on the beach. If there is no good object to tie off to I often fill my kite bag with rocks and attach the kite to it. |
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ericvs
Since 05 Jul 2008
133 Posts
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mikie
Since 06 Nov 2011
21 Posts
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 8:08 am self leash launch |
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| Thanks alot for the info, appreciate it. |
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Aeolus
Since 20 Apr 2010
354 Posts
Gold Beach, OR
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 8:46 am |
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| Good advice. I would add.......solid object" is the operative word here. Gain some experience away from people and in good wind. You'll get better and better with it as time goes on. |
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quenyaistar
Since 21 Oct 2011
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Cougar, WA
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 9:04 am |
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| I bet a tie-down would work as well.......like you would use to secure a dirt bike to a trailer |
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Aeolus
Since 20 Apr 2010
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Gold Beach, OR
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 10:42 am |
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| quenyaistar wrote: | | I bet a tie-down would work as well.......like you would use to secure a dirt bike to a trailer |
I would avoid any mechanical device especially cam straps. Sand and dirt eventually compromise the mechanism and you watch as your kite flies away. In a pinch they work, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. I keep a 8 foot loop of webbing tied with a water knot and a good carabiner kept in good working order. You can untie that webbing and have a 16ft length to improvise all kinds of anchors. I try to almost always girth hitch something. As in climbing....keep it clean and simple. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
4304 Posts
Camas
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 3:19 pm |
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Piece of Amsteel rope and a Stainless Caribeaner from Parkrose hardware. Works fine. Make sure you get a Big caribeaner. You don't want any issues with having a hard time un-hooking the thing. Also, hook up a sefety line with 1/8" amsteel to hook to the safety on your kite. If the chicken loop releases while you're hooking or un-hooking, well you just said goodbye to your kite if a safety aint hooked up.
Funny how you don't give a crap about spelling on pain meds. |
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 3:21 pm |
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| quenyaistar wrote: | | I bet a tie-down would work as well.......like you would use to secure a dirt bike to a trailer |
Nope, bad idea. Either it doesn't lock, or the lock aint big enough. |
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quenyaistar
Since 21 Oct 2011
416 Posts
Cougar, WA
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
4304 Posts
Camas
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 5:47 pm |
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| I've looked at that, but it worries me. If the kite decides to launch and heads to 12:00, does it have the grip to remain rooted when all the pull is straight up? |
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 5:58 pm |
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not on a rooster day...
favorite beginner memory - self landing, nuking newport day, buried the board in the sand, deep, hooked kite to boad handle, tossed a bunch of logs on top for good measure
dash to kite - watch as 156cm slingy surf skyrockets 80ft after looping kite - swore it was going to kill someone eatin lunch in the condos a mile away...
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
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quenyaistar
Since 21 Oct 2011
416 Posts
Cougar, WA
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| Tue Nov 29, 11 6:30 pm |
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Honey Badger dont need no freinds  |
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