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zheton

Since 11 Nov 2011
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 7:52 am    should i try a C kite?) Reply with quote

Hello everyone. I have a question a can't answer myself. I've been kiting for a year and a half so far and have lot's of sessions behind me) I guess i'm trying to say that i don't think i'm at begginer level any more. In this time i've had lots of different kites but never "c" kite. My last quiver of kites was: 17m t3, 14m naish hellix, 9m naish charger. I have upgrated my 17m t3 with zephyr, and replaced 9m charger with 8m bolt. I'm thinking of replacing my 14m hellix with something 12m one. I can't decide between park or torch. I could go to up to 30mph with my hellix, but i don't fell very confident) also zephyr has very good high range, so i guess it will be smart to have 12 instead of 14m.
I'm 200lbs, and i have no experience with a c-kites. Also i'm riding inland, here in MN we ride most the lakes and fields where wind is super gusty. Should i try the one of the newest Torchs or should i stay with bows/hybrids
Thank you all

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Wind Slither

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 8:22 am     Reply with quote

Given that you are 2nd year and riding in gusty conditions, I think you'll be happier on the hybrids...

Not that you would hate a good C kite. Thumb's Up

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wakeup

Since 11 Sep 2005
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 8:26 am     Reply with quote

yes

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Mike D

Since 28 Apr 2011
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 8:28 am    One vote for hybrid Reply with quote

agreed. If its super gusty, you'll probably have more fun on the hybrid. C kites can be great too, but it sounds like you might be better off with a little more depower.

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bambam

Since 15 Mar 2005
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 9:22 am     Reply with quote

Shameless gear plug!!!

http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-24507.html&highlight=

I have a super crispy 2011 Airush 11m Razor for sale at a stupidly cheap price. Replaced it with the same 2012 11m C Kite...

Yes, I am a C kite lover...

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bwd

Since 04 Aug 2007
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 10:31 am     Reply with quote

Try = yes,
buy = maybe.
Personally, I like 'em...

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Windance Crew

Since 18 Apr 2008
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 12:38 pm     Reply with quote

Maybe you should get something "almost" C 1st. Like the RPM maybe or as you said the Park

Also consider if you do go to a full-on C-kite you generally need more kites since C-kites tend to have a little less range

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Pepi

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PostFri Nov 11, 11 2:50 pm     Reply with quote

This is in no way to be taken as a jab, but best served as a metaphor to consider when thinking of "C" kites.

It's kinda like saying "I've been driving around downtown in my Automatic transmission Honda Accord and I've been kinda thinking about picking up a Dodge Challenger tricked out with a double-clutch shortshift tranny and hemi-supercharger. Would that be a nice car for me to consider driving around town in a lot of stop and go traffic?"

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kitezilla

Since 22 Jun 2006
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PostFri Nov 11, 11 3:05 pm     Reply with quote

And... you may want to get a new board... a little bit narrower and a tail that you can dig in, in order to control the power of the kite, by being able to send the kite to the edge of the window, when you get powered up.


Oh yeah, I almost forgot...You will want to get a pair of kite pants. Ahhh, 2002, the year my "C" kites made 3 attempts on my life. Very Happy

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bulae99

Since 12 Jul 2006
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PostSat Nov 12, 11 5:43 am    2011 RPM is a C kite, sort of.. Reply with quote

If you wanna try a C-kite then try an RPM. The RPM's are C kites with a bridle and some other assorted bells and whistles.

Most people who flew C-kites are now on a hybrid. The folks who are not usually are looking for wake style riding, or on on pully bars..Heinster.

I learned on a Caution C kite. It had very little de power and it made it tough to learn how to go up wind. I did learn how to accidentally jump, really high too!!!

Good luck Very Happy

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holly

Since 09 Jul 2006
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PostSat Nov 12, 11 8:33 pm     Reply with quote

I have some c kites for sale.. bro a kite is a kite, and C kites these days have just as much depower as any other kite.

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holly

Since 09 Jul 2006
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PostSun Nov 13, 11 8:27 am    Re: 2011 RPM is a C kite, sort of.. Reply with quote

bulae99 wrote:
If you wanna try a C-kite then try an RPM. The RPM's are C kites with a bridle


Umm then that means they are not a C kite bro.

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tpcramer

Since 26 Jul 2010
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PostSun Nov 13, 11 9:17 am     Reply with quote

Best decision i have made is to try one, the RPM for me was the next best thing, but almost nothing like a c kite in my opinion.
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registered

Since 12 Jul 2005
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PostSun Nov 13, 11 10:50 am     Reply with quote

i would say the resale should be a consideration......

what ever kite can be made to work usually.

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North BoUND

Since 30 Nov 2010
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PostSun Nov 13, 11 4:10 pm     Reply with quote

I ride MN and ND so I know exactly the type of gusty conditions you ride in. I was considering the same dilemma but I took the RPM route and I love it. If I was in your shoes I'd try to borrow a c kite to try it before you make your decision but I think you would be much happier with an RPM or Park when the wind gets gusty.
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kenja

Since 19 Jun 2008
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PostMon Nov 14, 11 8:31 am     Reply with quote

My North Vegas has two line attachments. The Freeride attachment gives it full depower and fast steering. It is a very fun but well behaved and controllable kite. If you want to go new school and be drug around with less depower and slower turning for unhooking, you put the lines on a different attachment point. As a twin tipper, I prefer the Vegas to the other North kites as an every day freeride weapon and rarely put it on the new school setting. If I were buying a new C kite, I'd want to be sure I wasn't buying a kite dedicated to new school riding because those qualities are not what you want for everyday riding. Especially in a gusty place like the Gorge. All in all, your best bet is to find some demos. I suspect other brands have done similar things with their C kites, but have no experience with them myself.

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A.K.

Since 01 Jul 2006
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PostThu Nov 17, 11 6:56 pm     Reply with quote

If you have to ask then you are not ready for C-kite. Many things to consider but take a look at who out there is actually riding a C-Kite.

1. guys who have been kiting since the beginning and never left the C-kite in the first place. Expert level riders.
2. guys that started kiting with flat or hybrids and have maxed out their tricks and kite performance. Meaning they are also Expert level riders.
3. Professional riders

I second the Slingshot RPM. This is basically a C-kite disguised as a flat kite. With shortest possible bridal it is going to give you the max C-kite feel.

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