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stringer

Since 31 Jul 2007
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PostMon Aug 22, 11 1:44 pm    Learning to surf Reply with quote

So I'm learning to surf here in Oahu. I've been out on the 9' soft top boards (sweet $5 rental boards)
Now I'm wondering what kind of board I should get to really get into it.
Also I could use some info on some beginner friendly spots.
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Scriffler

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 1:50 pm     Reply with quote

Get a mini tanker around 8 feet. Some people will tell you to go shorter, but without a solid foundation for a few years on a big board, you will be just another kook clogging the lineup. Depending on your time on the water and natural ability, this could be a much shorter time. If you are in Hawaii(or somewhere warm with waves, surfing all day, everyday) you can progress really fast in a few years and be ripping.

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DrewB

Since 16 Aug 2006
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PostMon Aug 22, 11 2:23 pm     Reply with quote

Welcome to the club Stringer!

I've got to disagree with Scriffler.

Get a few waves on the big soft top and then start trending towards a shortboard.
I'd start with something in the 6' 8" range with a little width and volume.
Longer boards are fun and easy, but also easy to get stuck on.
Shortboards are really tough, but once get the hang of it the rewards are worth it.
Since you are living in a wave-rich area and surfing warm water, I think you'll find it a lot easier to progress compared to Oregon.
The thick wetsuit and lack of consistant clean surf make the learing curve pretty long around here.
Find a mellow break and learn the rules.

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Chooch

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 3:07 pm     Reply with quote

Just remember that Locals Rule!


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Scriffler

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 3:33 pm     Reply with quote

Well, go ahead and try the shortboard. Have fun clogging the lineup kooking it while people who have dedicated their lives to surf well have to dodge you.

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forrest

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 3:52 pm     Reply with quote

Yea, the biggest thing is to surf where it's appropriate for your level. You're going to need to surf daily. You're not going to be strong enough to paddle a short-board for at least 6 months if you're surfing 3 to 5 times a week. Since you're going to be riding mellow waves I'd say go for a 8 foot funboard, surf it for 2 to 3 months, then drop down to the 7 foot range, 2 to 3 months, rinse/repeat.

Smile, have fun, encourage others, and make sure you always look towards the peak before you drop in as there might be someone deeper than you.

Scriffler wrote:
Well, go ahead and try the shortboard. Have fun clogging the lineup kooking it while people who have dedicated their lives to surf well have to dodge you.

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Windian

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 3:53 pm     Reply with quote

A lot of board choice depends on age, weight, flexibility and natural athletic ability. If you are in your 20's to early 30's and weigh less than 170 lbs and are fit like a chimpanzee, then you could eventually end up surfing on a short board like what the pros ride. But, it is still best to learn the fundamentals of catching and riding waves on a bigger funboard or a longboard.

If you don't fit the physical description above, don't even mess with the shortboards as you will just get frustrated and rarely catch waves along with looking and feeling like a kook. However, if you put a kite in your hands, then the sexy little shortboards can be ridden by even older guys with extra pounds.

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boardrider

Since 05 Apr 2006
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PostMon Aug 22, 11 5:11 pm     Reply with quote

Well - I see it a little different than these guys, but also know Drew knows what's up.

When you are starting out you have two major things to work on: 1 strength 2 how & when to catch the wave.

1. Strength. You need to be fairly strong & efficient to paddle a short board - Work on you're strength until you feel confident in it before you transition to a shorter board. Start of at a 'mellow' break to work on your strength - Big days at big breaks are usually crowed days - Not the time or place to work on paddling ..

2. How & when to catch the wave. Takes time to find that sweet spot. Once again, a fairly mellow break is the best to start & best to pick times that are less crowded if possible. Make your mistakes here where the consequences are minimal. Taking off too deep on a steep & hollow wave can hurt.

Watching & riding waves will help you judge the level of difficulty of a wave on that particular day & whether or not you can handle it. That isn't always obvious, even to seasoned kiteboarders.

Starting off in more mellow conditions (smaller & softer breaking waves, less crowded) will allow you to make mistakes with less consequence to both yourself & other surfers. Once you progress, hit the better breaks on bigger days when it's not as crowded & get it dialed in .. A kook in the line up on a good, crowded day is like a kook in the sand bar kiddie pool on a good, crowded day. And as scriff said, watch out for & give respect to the regular locals .. Surfline has the scoop on many breaks & is a good place to start, or talk w/ the guys at your local shop.

Long board / short board ? Who gives a shit - whatever is good for the day ..

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undertow

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 5:55 pm     Reply with quote

Surfing sounds hard, as long as your having fun

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DrewB

Since 16 Aug 2006
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PostMon Aug 22, 11 6:13 pm     Reply with quote

A bunch of good points here.

This probably won't apply to Stringer for a long time
....but if you want to surf on a regular basis, DON'T HAVE KIDS!
They make it really hard to chase waves.

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OG

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PostMon Aug 22, 11 6:59 pm     Reply with quote

i always just tell people to go with what they can paddle fast enough to catch a wave.

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genek

Since 21 Jul 2006
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PostMon Aug 22, 11 7:10 pm     Reply with quote

I think lots of guys enjoy fishes from bit below 7' to 7'8" or so. Probably be a bit more work to get started on, but more maneuverable than a big board and still decent float. Either that or just paddle in your SRT for the full workout.
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stringer

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PostTue Aug 23, 11 12:51 am     Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips.
I like the idea of the 8' funboard and working my way down.
The big soft tops were retarded easy. You can ride half a ripple on those.
Strength seems like the biggest thing to work on, especially after my shoulder injury.
Been working with resistance bands to rehab the shoulder, but are there any good workouts to fill in the gap between sessions especially when I'm underway on the submarine? Or is it a better idea just to go paddle my nuts off even if there are no waves?
I'm going to be wicked busy getting qualified/going out to sea for a while (like my whole enlistment) so I won't be able to get out all the time, and I'll still need to get my kite on.

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barfly

Since 31 Mar 2005
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PostTue Aug 23, 11 6:07 am     Reply with quote

Swimming
Pull ups
Push ups
Sit ups - core is important

I think the 8' is a good call because you can practice both kinds of entry; paddling to get up to the speed of the wave (long board) and paddling to the spot where the wave will break and getting to your feet as it crests (short). For the islands look for a board with a pulled tail so it can handle some steeper faces.

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bwd

Since 04 Aug 2007
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PostTue Aug 23, 11 7:07 am     Reply with quote

barfly says it well.
The longboard is your friend because it gives you more time on the wave, and that's where you learn most.
The other place you learn a lot is on the beach.
Time spent watching and seeing how the break works is well spent and can save you lots of paddling energy.

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Nak

Since 19 May 2005
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PostTue Aug 23, 11 7:28 am     Reply with quote

There's a good spot at Kaneohe Marine base. Only military can access it, so it's a lot less crowded than other breaks of equal quality. (Often, you'll have it to yourself. )

Summer in Waikiki is pretty good for a beginner too. Out in front of Dukes it's crazy crowded, but if you walk up the beach you'll find waves devoid of riders as well.

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostTue Aug 23, 11 10:03 am     Reply with quote

listen to the boardrider and the barfly

- I like my 7'5 Surftech Huevos - surfing is easy, the paddling and not drowning parts most challenging...

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