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WINDUDE
Since 10 Jun 2010
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yeah dude! R.I.P! I had that VHS, must have watched it like 1000000000000000 times
that slalom section right after the first jump is sick
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
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| Mon Aug 16, 10 3:12 pm |
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| Inept_Fun wrote: | | Windsurfing does not cross over into skateboarding... |
What qualifies something as "crossing over"?
I'm confused. The level of skill required for competition-level freestyle windsurfing today *far* exceeds what we ever imagined back when a forward loop was the epitome, and I daresay is on par with or exceeds what pro kiters are throwing. And it's done on what's called a windsurf board. Tell me again why it's not a "board" sport?
I guess everything is relative... some people call golfing a sport!  |
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wytcap
Since 10 Mar 2005
203 Posts
NW oregon
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| Mon Aug 16, 10 3:32 pm |
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| Windsurfing is the original "wind" board sport. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Mon Aug 16, 10 7:27 pm |
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I would just argue that windsurfing is closer to sailing than a boardsport. Does it take any skill or balance to stand on a windsurfing board?? Its more about knowing how to deal with the sail, than it is how to ride a board.
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Windian
Since 28 Apr 2008
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| Mon Aug 16, 10 9:09 pm |
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I don't know if anyone has stepped forward to technically define what sports qualify as "boardsports", but it seems reasonable if the word "board" is part of the sport's name...
Hence,
SURFBOARDING
SKATEBOARDING
SNOWBOARDING
SAILBOARDING
KITEBOARDING
PADDLEBOARDING
MOUNTAINBOARDING
SANDBOARDING
SKIMBOARDING
WAKEBOARDING
can all arguable be considered boardsports. However, there are some purist out there that will probably argue that in a true boardsport you cannot be holding on to anything to assist in the riding and must allow hands free for assorted grabs. Thus, kiteboarding, wakeboarding and sailboarding would not count unless you jetison the rig or let go of the kite or the rope.
Who is the guru that desides such matters anyway? I cast my vote for Robby Naish since he can probably do all of the above boardsports better that most of the people on this forum.
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Moto
Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
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| Mon Aug 16, 10 9:33 pm |
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What about boogie boarding?
That is a waaay extreme sport fa shoW!!
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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windobsessed
Since 07 Aug 2008
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Vancouver
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 7:34 am |
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Looking closer at the video I see that the equipment is late 80's early 90's, so ya, this was before Robby kiteboarded. I didn't notice it since the equipment looks just like my "OLD" stuff 
But I still wonder if the extra hangtime and flying at much higher altitudes with my kiteboard would translate into better jumping with my windsurfer? Although the landings are so much smoother with a kiteboard!
Don't know how this thread turned into a definition thread about board sports?
Also, in terms of balance and what is easier, for me, kiteboarding was much easier
to get going on, was up the first time I tried, less tippy, sticks better in the water,
only problem was that damn kite kept going in the wrong direction 
My efforts has been mostly focused on kiting skills, something that I way underestimated. |
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
Naishaholic
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 7:38 am |
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| Inept_Fun wrote: | | I would just argue that windsurfing is closer to sailing than a boardsport. Does it take any skill or balance to stand on a windsurfing board?? Its more about knowing how to deal with the sail, than it is how to ride a board. |
Coming from a windsurfing background... (back when it first started) I would say it take alot more skill to be good at windsurfing than kiteboarding.
We are all waterman. Give props to all who share the love of wind and water.
Ps Robby is the MAN.
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windmtnpete
Since 13 Sep 2009
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Home Valley
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 8:14 am |
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| Looks like Robby was using an early 90's wave / slalom sail.... rigged loose for more hang time. The sail shapes back then were much more kite-like than they are today, much more camber. |
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kitezilla
Since 22 Jun 2006
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gorge
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 8:29 am |
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| windobsessed wrote: | Looking closer at the video I see that the equipment is late 80's early 90's, so ya, this was before Robby kiteboarded.
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But not before He "Windweaponed"...I think Hawaii was the first stop on the world tour that Tom Magruder went on to hawk his invention... and rumor has it that Robby did a 90 foot high jump on it. He may have jumped higher on it than he ever has on a kite. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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Hood River
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 8:58 am |
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| Mark wrote: | | Inept_Fun wrote: | | I would just argue that windsurfing is closer to sailing than a boardsport. Does it take any skill or balance to stand on a windsurfing board?? Its more about knowing how to deal with the sail, than it is how to ride a board. |
Coming from a windsurfing background... (back when it first started) I would say it take alot more skill to be good at windsurfing than kiteboarding. |
But that wasnt the question. A 70 year old fat man could go out at the hook and do some christmas tree type shit with all the 10 year olds. It doesnt take any balance to stand on a windsurf plank. So what im getting at is if it takes 0 balance to stand on the board, why is it called a board at all. If your balance is shit you cant go push a skateboard around or ride down the hill on your snowboard, true board sports take skill and balance to be able to ride the board.
Skill does apply in windsurfing im not saying its easy, there are a lot of things that are hard that arent boardsports. Sailing is hard and thats what windplanking is, and its not a board sport. Oh yeah and he's not windplanking like a kiter, hes windplanking like a dangler... A dangler who cant land anything... SPLASH
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dangler
Since 26 Feb 2006
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 9:09 am you're so full of shit, (and yourself) |
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| Inept_Fun wrote: | | Mark wrote: | | Inept_Fun wrote: | | I would just argue that windsurfing is closer to sailing than a boardsport. Does it take any skill or balance to stand on a windsurfing board?? Its more about knowing how to deal with the sail, than it is how to ride a board. |
Coming from a windsurfing background... (back when it first started) I would say it take alot more skill to be good at windsurfing than kiteboarding. |
But that wasnt the question. A 70 year old fat man could go out at the hook and do some christmas tree type shit with all the 10 year olds. It doesnt take any balance to stand on a windsurf plank. So what im getting at is if it takes 0 balance to stand on the board, why is it called a board at all. If your balance is shit you cant go push a skateboard around or ride down the hill on your snowboard, true board sports take skill and balance to be able to ride the board.
Skill does apply in windsurfing im not saying its easy, there are a lot of things that are hard that arent boardsports. Sailing is hard and thats what windplanking is, and its not a board sport. Oh yeah and he's not windplanking like a kiter, hes windplanking like a dangler... A dangler who cant land anything... SPLASH |
yeah, Robbie should learn some shit from you, you puffed up little grommet. |
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 9:13 am |
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Dont know when I claimed to be teaching anything to Robbie?? Just having a debate about windsurfing is what I thought was going on...
Also when did I ever bring myself up?
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Inept_Fun
Since 14 Apr 2005
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 9:23 am |
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| jschenk wrote: | "You are also riding a sail board, not a surf board" Inept
So in your world surfing is a board sport?? If surfing is one of your board sports than how in F@##$ are SUP's and sail boards not included. What do you think an SUP is or a sailboard for that matter??? I'm no historian but didn't windsurfing develope around the time of snowboarding and before wakeboarding and all originate from surfing????? In most peoples world they all would classify as board sports-- wouldn't they??? |
Actually I take that back, SUP in flat water is different than SUP in waves. If you are SUP in some waves that is definitely riding a board primarily and it takes skill and balance. Im not trying to get personal in these posts either so I dont know why you guys are getting all bummed, I have this argument with baseball fans all the time also about how I think baseball is a game and not a sport.
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cool breeze
Since 05 Oct 2009
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 10:26 am |
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nice riding,
if you can smash your face, ankels, ass, nuts and whatever else on the board it might be a board sport. |
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
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| Tue Aug 17, 10 11:08 am |
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| Windian wrote: | | I don't know if anyone has stepped forward to technically define what sports qualify as "boardsports", but it seems reasonable if the word "board" is part of the sport's name... |
"SAILBOARDING" ...
Is what windsurfing was called before the word "surfing" became so cool. Back when this video was made shortboarders ranked on longboarders and skiers said a snowboard was a kids toy that would die as a fad.
Inept, not taking your opinion personally by the way. I agree with Mark it takes far more skill to learn windsurfing than kiting. Spending an afternoon standing on a wide board at the hook takes no more effort than flying a 2m trainer in a field, but that's as far as most people get. Wakeboarding, snowboarding, and kiteboarding - all three were days of lessons for me, not years.
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