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jmmorford

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 11:47 am    Alternatives to Event Site for Beginners Reply with quote

My kid and I are complete beginners and having a great time learning. We took lessons at the Event Site, but it seems like a really inappropriate location for beginners. It's way crowded with folks like us that don't have good kite control. A long down winder can take you into the stunt park or into the cold Hood River current. Basically, it's a formula for frustration at least and injury at worst.

We've discovered Jones Beach and it is perfect for learning. However, the winds seem to pick up mostly in the late afternoon. This weekend, it was blowing hard in the Gorge, but overcast conditions produced only a light wind at Jones, and then only in the late afternoon. Pretty much the same fomula when we were there last weekend, although it picked up earlier than (and wasn't blowing the Gorge hardly at all).

I want long hours in the harness. Any other suggestions in the Gorge for places friendly for a beginner to launch and ride without pissing off everybody else?

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ldhr

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:10 pm     Reply with quote

Are you asking about taking more lessons or going out with your own kite and practice body dragging, eventually short rides?

Don't take shortcuts, don't be in a hurry to get up and ride on the board. An few hours practicing the basics will save your life later. I'm taking the time to write this because I've learned myself in the past year along with my wife and teenage daughters. So far so good thanks to pro instruction.
Kiting is very dangerous and the shit can hit the fan before you even know what happened. Take your time, pay your dues, build good habits thru pro instruction.

Alternative number 1: There's a beach on the west side of Wells Island and a huge shallow area that extends 1/2 mile up from the beach.
You need a jet ski or boat to get to the beach. Or you can kayak or canoe from the west-end of the Hook. It's 300 yards to paddle to the beach.
Once there, you can actually rig your kite and walk 1/2 mile upwind and then body drag/ ride back downwind to the beach.
Alternative number 2: Another good option is the Lyel Sandbar in Washington. You have to access the sandbar by boat or jetski from Rowena as it's illeagal to cross the tracks to access the sandbar.

Alternative number 3: go camp and take lessons at Floras Lake (Oregon Coast, Bandon). Will Brady and Andy are the best instructors and half the gorge rate.

Alternative number 4: take more lessons in HR or Stevenson with approved, insured instructors.

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Youkai

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:16 pm     Reply with quote

I can definitely see where you're coming from. I just started this season too and I don't want to deal with the zoo of the event site.

I have been going to Sauvie Island because I can make it out there after work but you get skunked a lot there unless you wait until you are SURE the wind is blowing. There was one Saturday I was out for 6+ hours but that was one day this whole season so you can't count on it. The nice thing about SI is that it's relatively quiet, you almost never have so many people around you that it causes an issue and everyone is friendly. If the guys there know your new they will most likely stay out of your way (as opposed to expecting you to yield even though you don't have the skill). Even when it's blowing SI tends to be a light wind area so that makes it a little difficult when your new but on the flip side you don't really have to worry about getting yarded downwind by a strong gust. The river is wide and deep so no sand bar but if you can body drag you are golden. If you aren't good at dragging someone will typically notice and recover your board for you until you get better Smile The best thing about it like I said is if you live in the portland metro area you can take a quick jaunt out there after work.

I'm thinking about possibly going to Rooster Rock after work if SI isn't blowing but I haven't been there so I have no idea how consistent it is. It's on the other side of town from me but it's closer to the gorge so I'm hoping it might be blowing on the days that SI isn't.

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

Youkai wrote:
I can definitely see where you're coming from. I just started this season too and I don't want to deal with the zoo of the event site.

I have been going to Sauvie Island because I can make it out there after work but you get skunked a lot there unless you wait until you are SURE the wind is blowing. There was one Saturday I was out for 6+ hours but that was one day this whole season so you can't count on it. The nice thing about SI is that it's relatively quiet, you almost never have so many people around you that it causes an issue and everyone is friendly. If the guys there know your new they will most likely stay out of your way (as opposed to expecting you to yield even though you don't have the skill). Even when it's blowing SI tends to be a light wind area so that makes it a little difficult when your new but on the flip side you don't really have to worry about getting yarded downwind by a strong gust. The river is wide and deep so no sand bar but if you can body drag you are golden. If you aren't good at dragging someone will typically notice and recover your board for you until you get better Smile The best thing about it like I said is if you live in the portland metro area you can take a quick jaunt out there after work.

I'm thinking about possibly going to Rooster Rock after work if SI isn't blowing but I haven't been there so I have no idea how consistent it is. It's on the other side of town from me but it's closer to the gorge so I'm hoping it might be blowing on the days that SI isn't.


Rooster Rock only works on the east winds we get in the spring, winter, and fall. It will not work on a west wind.

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jasonq

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

The area to the west of wells island above the cove beach is a great learning spot, but not perfect. the beach is small, but the area of shallow water is huge, so you can rig on the beach, then carry into the water to launch. The trees also go right to the waters edge, so don't get too close to the island. there will likely be no one around to launch or land you. if you and your son go together, but kite 1 at a time, then its no problem. Just make sure you walk upwind into the water a good distance above the beach and launch with the kite way from the island for safety. This is where i went to escape the sand bar and figure it all out. With a kite monkey to launch and land you, highly recommended learning spot. jet ski lesson go up there all the time.

for lyle, i think you can boat across from the boat ramp in lyle, and don't have to come from rowena on the other side of the river. I could be wrong.

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:34 pm     Reply with quote

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 12:40 pm     Reply with quote

ldhr wrote:
Are you asking about taking more lessons or going out with your own kite and practice body dragging, eventually short rides?

Don't take shortcuts, don't be in a hurry to get up and ride on the board. An few hours practicing the basics will save your life later. I'm taking the time to write this because I've learned myself in the past year along with my wife and teenage daughters. So far so good thanks to pro instruction.
Kiting is very dangerous and the shit can hit the fan before you even know what happened. Take your time, pay your dues, build good habits thru pro instruction.

Alternative number 1: There's a beach on the west side of Wells Island and a huge shallow area that extends 1/2 mile up from the beach.
You need a jet ski or boat to get to the beach. Or you can kayak or canoe from the west-end of the Hook. It's 300 yards to paddle to the beach.
Once there, you can actually rig your kite and walk 1/2 mile upwind and then body drag/ ride back downwind to the beach.
Alternative number 2: Another good option is the Lyel Sandbar in Washington. You have to access the sandbar by boat or jetski from Rowena as it's illeagal to cross the tracks to access the sandbar.

Alternative number 3: go camp and take lessons at Floras Lake (Oregon Coast, Bandon). Will Brady and Andy are the best instructors and half the gorge rate.

Alternative number 4: take more lessons in HR or Stevenson with approved, insured instructors.


I would be very careful in using Alternative Number 1, if you are beginners on your own. The instructors who teach beginners, using that area just west of Wells Is., are very careful to keep their students corralled in areas, which do not have the hazardous "deadheads". Body dragging or falling and getting dragged into one of these partially submerged or fully submerged sharp pointed stumps could be deadly.

Anyone advising others to use this area, should go there sometime in the fall, when the water is very low, and look for themselves, at the many (50 to 100) waterlogged stumps, limbs, branches and broken off sapplings which are embedded in the sandy bottom, just waiting to impale some unsuspecting victim. You will be impressed!!

That said, the above post is correct, in that the area is a pretty good place to practice kite control, in shallow water.

If you go there despite this warning, at least, do this.... Sight a line from the big garage doors on the building at the fish hatchery...to the big house on the HR bluff, with the many reflective windows...and do NOT practice kiting anywhere to the East of that line. You will probably be 200 yards from the west end of the island, and the only hazard you will encounter, that far from the island is seaweed. The wind will be cleaner also. Still the safest way to kite there is to go with someone who has a lot of experience kiting in that area, and stay in the boundaries that they set for you.

Also, do not tread on the island itself, any more that you need to in order to set up your gear. The island is a wildlife sanctuary and has some sort of sensitive status, in order to protect the Great Blue Heron rookery, the eagles and other wildlife, so don't camp there, start fires, cut trails, etc...or the no trespassing signs will go up and enforcement will begin. The people in the bluff houses see all, and will not be shy about reporting your activities.

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Nak

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 1:09 pm     Reply with quote

1. Sauvie's Island

2. Woodland. There's a beach on Dike road. Take exit #22, cross under the freeway. First beach you come to. There will be an access road on your right. If there's more than a couple of fisherman it's not so good.

3 Kalama. Take the first Kalama exit going North. Go towards the river and continue North. First beach after the industrial gravel area. If there's more than a couple of fisherman, it's not so good.

4. Rooster Rock. It ALMOST NEVER works on a West wind. But when it does, it's the perfect beginner area. Look for Good west winds at Stevenson AND a minimum of 10 to 15 knots at Troutdale.

5. I'm going to respectfully disagree with Monkeyboy about Stevenson. East point is solid intermediate to advanced launch only, IMHO. However, there's a great spot there accessible by jetski.


If you have a boat there are more options.

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 1:21 pm     Reply with quote

You might try ST. Cloud on the Washington side (across from Mult. Falls). Water is low now exposing a large beach with a long reach over to the Oregon side. Wind is similiar to Sauvies (12m) with very steady pace. Very close to Vancouver /Camas and NO crowds.

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 1:45 pm     Reply with quote

If you dont have a jetski then Jones and Sauvies are really the best bets but like you said the wind isn't always great.

If you dont have a ski might be worth it to talk to some schools and see if you could work some deal just to have some one out there following u around till you feel more confident.

The coast is a great place to the waves can be a bit overwhelming at first but nice long beach to pratice.

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Dern

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 6:15 pm     Reply with quote

Jones definitely worked for me. I kited there every weekend in July except this last one.

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KimSoderholm

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 7:23 pm    Woodland sucks Reply with quote

Nak wrote:
2. Woodland. There's a beach on Dike road. Take exit #22, cross under the freeway. First beach you come to. There will be an access road on your right. If there's more than a couple of fisherman it's not so good.


Woodland is a terrible place to kite, horrible for beginners. The local kite crew got serious attitude problems as well. Tons of nets and loose fishing line in the water.

Yea, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

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Moto

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 7:27 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Stevenson


Monkey, thats funny, but come on. He doesn't know you are joking.

Stevenson sucks for beginners unless you got a jetski, cus the launch area is about 6 feet wide. If you can't stay up wind - then you are swimming in.

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PostMon Aug 02, 10 7:46 pm     Reply with quote

It also helps if you pick less crowded times to go out. Try before lunch or after 6:00 in the evening.
This evening, the wind at the sandbar came back up and there were only 5-6 people out at 6:30.
Last weekend was a Canadian holiday and Gorge Cup race so the Event Site was extra crowded. It should get better as we head into fall. The air gets colder, but the water is still warm.

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PostTue Aug 03, 10 6:55 am     Reply with quote

hilton wrote:
It also helps if you pick less crowded times to go out. Try before lunch or after 6:00 in the evening.
This evening, the wind at the sandbar came back up and there were only 5-6 people out at 6:30.
Last weekend was a Canadian holiday and Gorge Cup race so the Event Site was extra crowded. It should get better as we head into fall. The air gets colder, but the water is still warm.


Very true Hilton. The Sandbar Monday-Thursday can be solitary any month of the year. By September you will need to know how to self land.

With a few good days under your belt any crowd will not bother you and you'll be able to find a lot of room to ride once you push yourself to gain confidence.

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