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SpanishGirl
Since 27 Jun 2010
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Wed Jul 07, 10 6:57 am Surfboard Straps or Strapless |
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Just started kiting a couple years ago, since than been ridding a twin tip. While watching other kiters shred it on the swell with their surfboards! Looks super sick! want to try it. So need your help to decide what's the best way to learn. Should I start with or without straps or a board with a single front strap? Any other info/opinion would be appreciated.
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Scribble
Since 18 Nov 2005
636 Posts
NoPo
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Wed Jul 07, 10 7:00 am |
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I just started this season riding surfboards and to me it seems like it would be harder to learn with straps. It's nice being able to move your feet around and not have to worry about getting them in the straps.
The single front strap scares me. I tore my ACL when I was learning because one foot came out of the strap and the other did not.
Andy
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nickdward

Since 11 Aug 2008
130 Posts
Seattle
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Wed Jul 07, 10 7:43 am |
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I think riding with no straps is much easier to learn things like gybing. Also in lower wind strapless is much better because you can move your stance around to make the board more efficient.
Straps are kind of a crutch, in my opinion. They're easy, but you won't truly learn how to ride a surfboard. That's just my opinion though...I haven't ridden anything but a strapless surfboard for the last year...it's too damn fun
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kitebot
Since 20 Feb 2007
251 Posts
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Wed Jul 07, 10 8:16 am |
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nickdward wrote: | I think riding with no straps is much easier to learn things like gybing. Also in lower wind strapless is much better because you can move your stance around to make the board more efficient.
Straps are kind of a crutch, in my opinion. They're easy, but you won't truly learn how to ride a surfboard. That's just my opinion though...I haven't ridden anything but a strapless surfboard for the last year...it's too damn fun |
Agreed, unless you're going out in huge surf, I feel it's easier and more fun to ride without straps.
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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Sella

Since 21 Apr 2007
1794 Posts
Doin' The Dalles
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Wed Jul 07, 10 8:43 am |
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If you're a machine at body-dragging go strapless as it will push your progression quicker. It's such a different feeling that when you stick a few turns it's that rush of learning all over again. Clean wind also a huge benefit to help you.
I went strapped...then removed the back strap first....then strapless. Each stage is a learning curve but still fun and strapless for me is still a big challenge so don't get discouraged and be patient.
Also, keep the front strap loose as Scribble recommended if you go that route.
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genek

Since 21 Jul 2006
2165 Posts
East Po
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Wed Jul 07, 10 9:43 am |
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I would never recommend that anyone ride with one strap. Might be OK on the river but in ocean waves that's just asking for a messed up knee. I'd go strapless if you're learning on the river. More fun and you can learn some new skills.
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adamxbo
Since 01 May 2010
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Wed Jul 07, 10 9:49 am |
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as far a my strapless experience goes 4 years ago I though it's impossible to ride serious waves strapless, started of in flat water, no straps. jibes, ollies became easy stuff quite quickly, then you need to work on the timing and reading the break when you go out in the waves. It makes huge difference what conditions are you in, offshore wind for ex makes everything super easy, except getting your board back, sideshore and side on makes things most complicated since your kite will stall once you catch a longer wave and trust me at some level you do not want to get off the wave just cause your kite is stalling. well coming back to the topic, riding with straps can give you more control(so they say, I have never considered it waveriding) but riding strapless is more fun and it's as close to surfing as it gets with a kite.
now one more thing. LEASH. from my experience... USE IT(as long as you're on the level you can control the kite after falling off the board, still in some conditions it's good to go without the leash). I have been using it for last two years and I wish I had used it from the beginning. I would be progressing much faster.
Adam
Surfpoint Vietnam
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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
4911 Posts
Portland
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Wed Jul 07, 10 10:12 am |
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Nice shot!
don't really need the leash in the Northwest - not too many spots with reefs or rock - and the board generally ends back on the beach...
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DROCK999

Since 31 May 2007
852 Posts
Left Coast
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Wed Jul 07, 10 10:24 am |
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Gman wrote: | Nice shot!
don't really need the leash in the Northwest - not too many spots with reefs or rock - and the board generally ends back on the beach... |
yep, if you ever loose your board just body drag back in, your board will be there shortly if not already; at least in the ocean. and my thoughts about leashes are if you can't bodydrag back up to your board you shouldn't be in water thats too deep for you to touch in the first place
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kt
Since 16 Mar 2005
763 Posts
Portland, Or
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Wed Jul 07, 10 12:51 pm |
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just started strapless this year and the gybes are way nicer. a very different feeling on the water being able to move your feet around. starting out is my biggest challenge without the straps but, i am slowly getting it.
river only so far. i have been skunked the two times i went to the coast.
kt
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kochease

Since 03 Jul 2008
760 Posts
In Ft. Stevens, OR
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Wed Jul 07, 10 8:39 pm |
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Strapless rocks!!! I used straps for a few sessions just to really get the feel of the board but now it's been strapless forever more!!! Practice in the river the hit the ocean.
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Nak

Since 19 May 2005
4304 Posts
Camas
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Wed Jul 07, 10 8:43 pm |
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pdxmonkeyboy wrote: |
Practice the two step jibe on land, you'll be surprised how easy it is |
Tell me more. Every time I try and jibe I end up on my face. I can ride toe side and heel side both ways. I just can't jibe.
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kitebot
Since 20 Feb 2007
251 Posts
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Wed Jul 07, 10 9:58 pm |
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Nak wrote: | pdxmonkeyboy wrote: |
Practice the two step jibe on land, you'll be surprised how easy it is |
Tell me more. Every time I try and jibe I end up on my face. I can ride toe side and heel side both ways. I just can't jibe.  |
Don't look down! Seriously, I focus instead on where I'm going, it made a huge difference when I was starting out. I picture the stringer running down the center of the board and try to place my feet over it as much as possible. I change my feet after the jibe once I'm tracking in a straight line and my board has speed, as it's far more stable than when I'm slogging. Good luck.
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backtoCaLi
Since 15 Mar 2008
74 Posts
Nor-Cal
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Thu Jul 08, 10 3:57 am |
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I found it easier while learning to jibe to try to do it soon after my transtiton, pointed a little downwind, & the kite higher. No hesitation in the process, think of it as a dance move, if you wait too long after moving the back foot up you be off beat.
and definitely strapless is the shiz! it really is the best way to maximize your surfboard potential and the closest thing to real surfing.
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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
1691 Posts
I give out bad advice.
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Thu Jul 08, 10 7:07 am Practice a jump jibe |
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Get up and planning, then turn so you are switch footed, whatever direction, then send your kite up like your doing a little jump.
When kite is directly over head, do a quick jump and switch feet to normal stance.
You can also do this in a tack set up as well.
Hey, for a beer I'll show you how on the water..
Cheeers
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Matt E.
Since 22 May 2008
318 Posts
West Coast Sales Rep
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Thu Jul 08, 10 7:15 am |
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I think the easiest way to jibe is to not focus on the jibe. Instead go and carve to your toe side, once you are coming out of the turn quickly flip your feet and you're off! This helps prevent doing the down wind hula/waterski on your board
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