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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
Hick
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Wed Feb 10, 10 1:56 pm |
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I don't feel that this one qualifies for the Industry Soapbox section since it wasn't started by an industry person, isn't comparing brands (which is banned), and is just mostly making fun of the name. Anyone disagrees let me know!
-Industry Soapbox Enforcement Officer
surfboy1968 wrote: | Damn, isnt there an industry section for this shit  |
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wytcap
Since 10 Mar 2005
203 Posts
NW oregon
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Wed Feb 10, 10 2:40 pm |
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Forrest, pepi ,
Dimitri was always the face person prior to Epic, anything and everything related to business at Eclipse was decided by the Sole owner of Eclipse not Dimitri.
I was burned as well as most who worked for Eclipse but that is water under the bridge.
Dimitri along with his wife are sole owners of Epic.
The post that started this thread was by a rider who I or Dimitri have no idea who they are. Just a rider who tried the kites and reported,
Dimitri is not retired, and the company is very solid.
So you do not have to be impressed but before you speak out of turn please have your facts correct.
If I can answer anyones question please give me a call or E-mail rather holding court in public.
Dale@epickites.com
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Sella

Since 21 Apr 2007
1794 Posts
Doin' The Dalles
FLY'IN HIGH PIE GUY
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Wed Feb 10, 10 2:51 pm |
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Nick wrote: | I have a new game.
Who is going to be the next "X Pro Rider" with their own brand? |
Based on the originality of branding their own names....you see where Dimitri needed to think outside the box. "Hey bra..whatch ya riggin? "I'm pumping my Maramenides bra!"
Shannon Best- Best
Robby Naish- Naish
Lou Wainman - Wainman Hawaii
Martin Vari - Vari Kites
Pete Cabrinha - Cabrinha
My pick for next in line are "Flash Kites " coming to some beach van nearest you soon.
What a brutal and small industry to find your niche. |
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JUMPIN JIMI
Since 11 Nov 2006
123 Posts
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Wed Feb 10, 10 3:18 pm |
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THEY SHOULD CHANGE THE NAME TO ..''NOT SO EPIC''  |
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drtaamc
Since 24 Jul 2008
120 Posts
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Wed Feb 10, 10 6:06 pm |
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Can't we just argue politics instead of this mundane my kite brand is better than your kite brand?  |
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K4L

Since 19 Jan 2009
483 Posts
Obsessed
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Wed Feb 10, 10 9:01 pm |
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Pepi wrote: | nothing like another retired pro-rider kite company to add to the growing list of internet closeout and back-of-the-van direct sales on our beach program....... |
Yeah...If they arent over priced to start with AND "local"(even if made in china like all kites) to go along with the back of van "discounts"..... then they arent any good!!
What ever happened to sharing the stoke rather than starting political BS topics and dissing one brand over others??
If you cant share the stoke without starting controversy then dont share at all!! |
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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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Wed Feb 10, 10 10:14 pm |
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K4L wrote: | Pepi wrote: | nothing like another retired pro-rider kite company to add to the growing list of internet closeout and back-of-the-van direct sales on our beach program....... |
Yeah...If they arent over priced to start with AND "local"(even if made in china like all kites) to go along with the back of van "discounts"..... then they arent any good!!
What ever happened to sharing the stoke rather than starting political BS topics and dissing one brand over others??
If you cant share the stoke without starting controversy then dont share at all!! |
K4L - I hear where you are coming from. There is a localist attitude fer ser - but I think in many ways its good. We need a local shop that is dedicated to kiting. its very convenient to be able to stop in and buy replacements parts, new parts, old parts or go into talk to people who know what they are talking about. If we do not support our local shops - we won't have this. Its expensive to run a store year round - especially when most of its business is made in a short few months.
So anyways, with that being said - I am always up for trying out new kites and seeing whats good out there. _________________ Still rockin gojos, *ssless chaps, and ankle weights! |
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BellinghamKiteboarding
Since 15 Mar 2008
73 Posts
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Wed Feb 10, 10 11:04 pm |
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Dimitri is the guy people love to watch. Not retired, just not the wake new school rider that normal non kiters watch. Dimitri is a crowd pleaser, and is about big air, board offs, and smooth style. Unfortunately that's not what PKRA values these days. Having watched Harlow, Lenten, Leroy, etc..... I put Dimitri in the same class when it comes to pleasing the crowd. Non kiters probably relate better to dimitri's grace and unique board offs.
That being said, i was affected by the Eclipse debacle. The kites from eclipse were great. I loved the thruster, and still do. The problem with eclipse wasn't the design or build, it was thAt too many promises were made by the owner that he couldn't make good on. Dimitri wasn't the owner, so I respect that he wouldn't stick with a company that had little follow through. He did what he could, until he realized he couldn't be effiective with a company he didn't own.
So he started his own. He went to the designer of the thruster, and financially made good, and got the latest generation kites that fly great. Relanch and stability are improved, opening the kite to a broader audience. (screamer)
I am a believer in the brand and dimitri, and got to spend a weekend with him in ventana at the expo. Nothing but respect from me for the guy and what he is doing.
Nobody is selling out of a van, and there is a strong dealer network in place
If you want to talk with real people who fly the kites, call us. We are open ALL year long, with real kiters running the shop from 11 to 4 Monday thru Saturday (winter hours) 360 SPLASH 1
We already have demo gear in Seattle and Bellingham, with plans to get gear in BC and beyond. Try the kites if you can. They are great. |
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j

Since 08 Nov 2006
94 Posts
Seattle
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Thu Feb 11, 10 9:23 am |
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[quote=Shymac]The biggest thing that pissed me off is they killed the term "EPIC".[/quote]
Now if only someone will start a kite company named "Legit"... |
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Sol-flyer

Since 21 Mar 2006
1280 Posts
Dude, where's my Bus?
Otto Mann
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Thu Feb 11, 10 9:31 am |
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Thanks guys, I completely understand.
I have been pretty skeptical at first glance but recently have seen the efforts from dimitri and I am stoked to see it starting to pay off for the guy.
Time will tell _________________ I stretch my wings and pull the strings |
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Inept_Fun

Since 14 Apr 2005
1417 Posts
Hood River
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Thu Feb 11, 10 10:06 am |
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this post is so fucking epic... who would have ever guessed such epic things would go down in a thread about epic.... epic. _________________ I heart dangling |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Thu Feb 11, 10 10:50 am |
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I feel like some of the info here is relevant and it's not a brand versus brand thread. Not everything on this forum has to be positive. Sometimes the information that gets shared is dark and negative, that's just life.
K4L wrote: | Yeah...If they arent over priced to start with AND "local"(even if made in china like all kites) to go along with the back of van "discounts"..... then they arent any good!!
What ever happened to sharing the stoke rather than starting political BS topics and dissing one brand over others??
If you cant share the stoke without starting controversy then dont share at all!! |
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manplesvanuatu
Since 17 Jul 2008
15 Posts
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Thu Feb 11, 10 12:01 pm |
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man, reading comments like Pepi's I am just a little saddened that negative vibes comes out from it. I do not know how the Epic kites fly. Have met Dimitri a few times and I can tell you he is pretty passionate about this sport. In my opinion, he and the other small companies are just so passionate about it that they are willing to give risk their livelyhood to bringing out a brand. Pepi you say that you "feel bitter once in awhile" cause you have a mortgage, kids and what so ever...wonder if you ever thought guys like Dimitri or the others don't have the same issues..
To me little brand like that brings out the honesty in the big brands...Otherwise Cabrinha and the alikes may think it's ok to market $2000 tarpped "tent" materialed kite from China to the mass. Because really it's only tent tarp (haha) and it should not cost that much:-) The say competition is good for the business. It makes people think out of the tank. It drives the technology. If you don't innovate you die. So if the small guys can't keep up they will go away...adding negativity to forum like this is wasted energy. So my take is to stop being negative and just let who ever believe in their passion and have a dream..and for us kiters to do nothing but kiting. Bitterness is not good:) There are people in Haiti who all they worry is "what is the next meal available" |
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manplesvanuatu
Since 17 Jul 2008
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Thu Feb 11, 10 12:01 pm |
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man, reading comments like Pepi's I am just a little saddened that negative vibes comes out from it. I do not know how the Epic kites fly. Have met Dimitri a few times and I can tell you he is pretty passionate about this sport. In my opinion, he and the other small companies are just so passionate about it that they are willing to give risk their livelyhood to bringing out a brand. Pepi you say that you "feel bitter once in awhile" cause you have a mortgage, kids and what so ever...wonder if you ever thought guys like Dimitri or the others don't have the same issues..
To me little brand like that brings out the honesty in the big brands...Otherwise Cabrinha and the alikes may think it's ok to market $2000 tarpped "tent" materialed kite from China to the mass. Because really it's only tent tarp (haha) and it should not cost that much:-) The say competition is good for the business. It makes people think out of the tank. It drives the technology. If you don't innovate you die. So if the small guys can't keep up they will go away...adding negativity to forum like this is wasted energy. So my take is to stop being negative and just let who ever believe in their passion and have a dream..and for us kiters to do nothing but kiting. Bitterness is not good:) There are people in Haiti who all they worry is "what is the next meal available" |
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Pepi

Since 16 Jun 2006
1831 Posts
Pure Stoke Sports
Shop Owner
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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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Thu Feb 11, 10 1:12 pm |
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Pepi wrote: | I am sorry if I made you sad
Now I sound like a mean person. Next time I'll try not share my own personal opinion on a public forum so as not to offend or sadden anyone.  |
Pepi, I feel sad that you have to censor yourself  _________________ Still rockin gojos, *ssless chaps, and ankle weights! |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Thu Feb 11, 10 3:12 pm |
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Don't make this about starving people in Haiti...
Epic kites will do well I'm sure. Eclipse was well respected in my book just because of Matty (sol-flyer). Matty was boosting just as high as Dimitri was in SPI when I was there, and doing the new-school wake stuff too. Epic will be respected cause Matty is respected.
Even though I'm afraid I'm going to be labeled a whinie bitch for this, here goes:
This negativity has nothing to do with Epic kites and really is aimed at Dimitri himself. Dimitri is a terrible liaison for kiteboarding. Most people (all who've posted something negative in this thread in fact) who aren't potential customers of his, that have had interactions with him on the water, can't stand him. He's the worst offender of cutting people off, pinching people upwind, hogging the space in front of cameras, and doing whatever is necessary to get exposure while shitting on all the poeple on the water around him. Not to mention bouncing off piers and making kiting look like an idiot's sport. I'm sure he's a nice guy in person though.
Regardless, He doesn't get to do that and expect forums to be filled with hearts and bunnies loving on him.
manplesvanuatu wrote: | man, reading comments like Pepi's I am just a little saddened that negative vibes comes out from it. I do not know how the Epic kites fly. Have met Dimitri a few times and I can tell you he is pretty passionate about this sport. In my opinion, he and the other small companies are just so passionate about it that they are willing to give risk their livelyhood to bringing out a brand. Pepi you say that you "feel bitter once in awhile" cause you have a mortgage, kids and what so ever...wonder if you ever thought guys like Dimitri or the others don't have the same issues..
To me little brand like that brings out the honesty in the big brands...Otherwise Cabrinha and the alikes may think it's ok to market $2000 tarpped "tent" materialed kite from China to the mass. Because really it's only tent tarp (haha) and it should not cost that much:-) The say competition is good for the business. It makes people think out of the tank. It drives the technology. If you don't innovate you die. So if the small guys can't keep up they will go away...adding negativity to forum like this is wasted energy. So my take is to stop being negative and just let who ever believe in their passion and have a dream..and for us kiters to do nothing but kiting. Bitterness is not good:) There are people in Haiti who all they worry is "what is the next meal available" |
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