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Mark

Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
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Wed Dec 02, 09 3:45 pm OT I hate microsoft. |
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How hard can it be to do a simple upgrade from XP to Windows 7? Well pretty damn hard. I have to back up(buy new external hard drive) , reformat my drive, then load, then reinstall all my software, all 3rd party software must be reinstalled from disk.....
Why can't windows / microsoft play well with itself? AHHHHHHHH
It better be worth it.....
Rant over. _________________ Cleverly disguised as an adult...
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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master
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Wed Dec 02, 09 4:08 pm Re: OT I hate microsoft. |
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Mark wrote: | It better be worth it..... |
It is basically the same OS with just a little more crap. If you have an external hard drive it should be pretty easy to do. Great time to format your hard drive and start fresh.... |
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bajakiter

Since 16 May 2007
58 Posts
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Wed Dec 02, 09 4:48 pm |
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I have been running 7 for about a month, there isn't much difference between vista and 7. A couple cool features though and it does seem to be a faster os.... |
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
854 Posts
Seattle
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Wed Dec 02, 09 4:50 pm |
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I haven't heard any complaints about 7 yet and I know a few people that are using it. some of them are pretty techy geeks too.
my take is, for XP users, 7 is pointless unless you're running a system with more then 4gb of ram and a core 2 quad or i7 quad core processor. or if for some reason like gaming you need directx 10 support.
but with that said. I've always had to reinstall regardless of upgrades at least once every couple years to clear the registry rot out of my pc. 7 will eventually become the new standard so either pick a good time to upgrade or buy a mac.
I can't decide yet if I'm going the mac route or not. they are nice but kinda insane on the price.
oh yeah...I'm still runnin XP too. none of that vista shiat. _________________ www.youtube.com/c/christianjohnsons |
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mschulz

Since 29 May 2007
530 Posts
Reno, NV
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Wed Dec 02, 09 6:12 pm |
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C Johnson wrote: | I can't decide yet if I'm going the mac route or not. they are nice but kinda insane on the price. |
Totally worth it. No more Microsoft bull shit. _________________ MS |
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Tony
Since 28 Aug 2006
940 Posts
Portland
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Wed Dec 02, 09 6:17 pm |
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mschulz wrote: | C Johnson wrote: | I can't decide yet if I'm going the mac route or not. they are nice but kinda insane on the price. |
Totally worth it. No more Microsoft bull shit. |
I agree.....Go with the mac....Well worth the price.....  |
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mojo1time

Since 28 Jul 2005
186 Posts
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Wed Dec 02, 09 6:19 pm I left msft a while back |
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MAC all the way-better platform, faster, software is better......and I use this one as my work computer-Exchange is fine, security is solid and easy, great with Iphone and BlackBerry.
MSFT lost themselves after they had cleaned up XP Professional (last solid, fast msft OX). The OS has gotten so bloated I lost interest in msft and moved to and iMac 4 years ago (after using one until Sophomore year of college). The MacBook with 4gb ram. It hammers thru pix, video, etc.....
Kick it,
Lance _________________ Lance
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eric
Since 13 Jan 2006
1871 Posts
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Wed Dec 02, 09 7:26 pm |
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I got so #$%@#$% fed up with ms four years ago I went Apple--no going back |
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sixo

Since 25 Jun 2007
36 Posts
west side
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Wed Dec 02, 09 8:13 pm |
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I think unless your a power user who loves menus, extra options, sub menus, stacked os's, total control of the universe and have a streak of obsessive compulsive disorder, get a mac
keep your life and get a mac, it's just a computer not a test!
on the other hand.... if your a serious user doing real work with real software shiiiiit cant really beat a supercharged PC
oh my god I'm so confused I think I'll go reformat my pc hard drive and watch a movie on my mac |
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Spike

Since 13 May 2007
1414 Posts
Alameda
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Wed Dec 02, 09 8:54 pm |
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I thought NWkite was a brand-war-less forum? I say lock it up! |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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Wed Dec 02, 09 9:50 pm |
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Okay, first, I'm a PC as Apple would label me. Through and through. I've been a software engineer for a long ass time on many different operating systems and a few different hardware platforms.
Mac is not a better platform, it is the *EXACT* same platform: X86 for 32bit and X64 for 64bit. Macs have X86/X64 Intel CPUs in them.
It's not faster, faster is a feeling not a fact.
The software is certainly not better, not even in the slightest, quality-wise it's far worse. Security wise, you have no protections from malicious websites like Vista or 7. Further, Apple has a horrible track record of acknowledgment and remediation of security issues from independent researchers.
Windows is for power users and Mac is for regular users, it's as simple as that. Pick accordingly.
The reason Mac users don't have upgrade issues like Mark is experiencing is because Apple rarely (more like never) updates/fixes their software. |
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Mark

Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
Naishaholic
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Wed Dec 02, 09 10:41 pm |
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One machine running nicely. One more to go. This one is a Vista machine and should be easier to upgrade. _________________ Cleverly disguised as an adult...
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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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Wed Dec 02, 09 10:44 pm |
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Forrest wrote: | Okay, first, I'm a PC as Apple would label me. Through and through. I've been a software engineer for a long ass time on many different operating systems and a few different hardware platforms.
Mac is not a better platform, it is the *EXACT* same platform: X86 for 32bit and X64 for 64bit. Macs have X86/X64 Intel CPUs in them.
It's not faster, faster is a feeling not a fact.
The software is certainly not better, not even in the slightest, quality-wise it's far worse. Security wise, you have no protections from malicious websites like Vista or 7. Further, Apple has a horrible track record of acknowledgment and remediation of security issues from independent researchers.
Windows is for power users and Mac is for regular users, it's as simple as that. Pick accordingly.
The reason Mac users don't have upgrade issues like Mark is experiencing is because Apple rarely (more like never) updates/fixes their software. |
I don't have Forrest's experience with computers - but just in my own experiences - microsoft sucks the big donkey ballz. Mac just seems to have less problems. But then again I'm a regular user. _________________ Still rockin gojos, *ssless chaps, and ankle weights! |
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jblum
Since 13 Jul 2008
307 Posts
The Gorge
Obsessed
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Wed Dec 02, 09 11:18 pm |
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Forrest wrote: |
The software is certainly not better, not even in the slightest, quality-wise it's far worse. Security wise, you have no protections from malicious websites like Vista or 7. Further, Apple has a horrible track record of acknowledgment and remediation of security issues from independent researchers.
Windows is for power users and Mac is for regular users, it's as simple as that. Pick accordingly.
The reason Mac users don't have upgrade issues like Mark is experiencing is because Apple rarely (more like never) updates/fixes their software. |
You're right. All the Mac software is crap. I mean, who would actually want to use their software for something useful like organizing photos or editing video in a way that is simple and user-friendly enough for anyone? Why would I use iTunes or iMovie when there are great apps like real player (blows) or Windows Live Movie Maker (which I'm sure sucks, although I've never used it)...
The main difference I see is that 99% of the Mac users actually use their software for something simple and useful (like music, photos, or video), while most PC users never touch the software and use their cheap crap-books for nothing but email and internet because they can't do much else without the thing bogging down or crashing. There are a lot of people who use iTunes on their PCs. You could argue that's because Apple is making the best MP3 player out there, people love their iPhones, or whatever, but in any case, people use iTunes because its better software than most of what's out there for the PC... certainly better than the other free options IMO.
I'm sure you'd have an easy time explaining to all the "regular users" who produce cinema, do pro photo stuff, or code apps (yes, you can do that on a mac, too...), that they are just Average Joe computer users.
As far as Apple rarely updating or fixing their software, I'm glad that Apple's software update is as simple and painless as it is. No "XP Service Pack 124" for the fifth time as they try to patch a sinking ship made out of gauze. The Microsoft OS is full of holes. Vista was a flop, and although I've heard better things about 7, the only reason I hope it succeeds is because of how badly Microsoft needs a score in this struggling economy and increasingly competitive market with Google's pending OS release and Mac OS gaining a stronger market share.
 _________________ JHB |
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shred_da_gorge
Since 12 Nov 2008
1365 Posts
Da Hood & Da Wood
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Wed Dec 02, 09 11:38 pm |
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Lucky this thread isn't on BAK or all the Apple kiters would be weighing in (there are lots). I've run XP sp2 for years on the few computers I have that don't run Linux, but I actually spent tonight helping my 73-year-old Mom with her Dell/Vista laptop. What crap!!!! I've never seen such a polluted and convoluted interface in my life. And no, I'm not a Mac user, never touched one and I think they're overpriced.
I pitched this idea to a Director at Qualcomm a few weeks ago and have talked to a few Directors at Google about the new generation of 'smartbooks' (instant-on grid-based laptops). I still think there's a huge untapped market for a simple, instant-on, easy-to-connect laptop with easy-to-read font and an easy email client and browser (Chrome rocks!) for the senior citizens. They seem to all be buying Vista laptops because they can't afford Macs on fixed incomes... nobody wins.
And all I want is a glare-proof smartbook with an accurate wind meter built in. |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Thu Dec 03, 09 12:07 am |
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And the Fanboys come out of the closet. I know a fanboy when I see a statement like "The Microsoft OS is full of holes."
Anyway, who cares. I'm just happy that I have a backspace and a delete key. |
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
Hick
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Thu Dec 03, 09 12:12 am |
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You're a Linux user and never seen a more polluted and convoluted interface? KDE? Gnome?
BTW, the reason most people think vista sucks is because security was priority number 1. Security and Usability are mutually exclusive, and you have to strike a balance. The UAC escalations are there to try and stop malware from changing settings on your system. If one of those prompts up when you weren't expecting, you can decline the action and know that your system is compromised. You can disable UAC but then you're not as protected. Now don't go all crazy on me saying malware only affects Windows, you're a fool if you believe that. |
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