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Yardsale
Since 29 Mar 2005
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| Mark wrote: | Lets see. Prices are different around the area.
Here is a basic break down.
$350 for intro course
$1500 for P2 rating (needed to be able to jump pretty much anywhere)
harness $700ish
Wing $3500
Of course you can find used wings and gear. If you take your lessons and purchase from the same guy you get a deal as well.
Probably other stuff I am spacing but that's the basics. Unlike kiting, a single wing will suffice untill you want to do Acro or Long Distance ect. |
What's involved in the P2 rating? How many Hours? .....Do you have to pass a flight test? Are there wings that are good to grow into that might cross over into Acro? Sounds like the wings might be good for several years of use. |
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
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| Mon Aug 24, 09 8:08 pm |
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As a bare minimum you need 8 hours of ground school. flight basics, weather, flight dynamics,reserve deployment, ect. 25 flights or more, 5 flying days. You will have to do a couple test, and quite a bit of wing handling.
It seems to be a pretty complete starting point. Of course, as they say, a P2 is license to learn.
As for one wing doing everything.... Someone else could answer that better than me. I understand if you get a 1-2 (rating system) wing it will do ALOT. I think you would be happy with one wing for some time.
Come up and give it a try...
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Kodiak
Since 01 Aug 2005
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| Mon Aug 24, 09 8:09 pm |
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| Mark wrote: |
$350 for intro course
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It only cost you $350 for the weekend, or was it more for the rentals etc.. |
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
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| Mon Aug 24, 09 8:14 pm |
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$350 is for the "midweek" intro. I think weekends are $395. Yes that includes everything. You can stay at the Ranch for $10/night. Bring your own food ect.
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Kodiak
Since 01 Aug 2005
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| Mon Aug 24, 09 8:26 pm |
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| Wow, I had no idea it was that cheap. Compared to a couple of kite lessons that is a steal. |
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FlyDunes
Since 09 Oct 2007
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| Tue Aug 25, 09 6:54 am |
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| Mark wrote: | As a bare minimum you need 8 hours of ground school. flight basics, weather, flight dynamics,reserve deployment, ect. 25 flights or more, 5 flying days. You will have to do a couple test, and quite a bit of wing handling.
It seems to be a pretty complete starting point. Of course, as they say, a P2 is license to learn.
As for one wing doing everything.... Someone else could answer that better than me. I understand if you get a 1-2 (rating system) wing it will do ALOT. I think you would be happy with one wing for some time.
Come up and give it a try...
Mark |
Most people seem to have one wing. I have a quiver because I like to ridge soar and wagga in higher wind conditions too.
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eli_anderson
Since 04 Jun 2007
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| Tue Aug 25, 09 7:19 am |
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| Kodiak wrote: | | Wow, I had no idea it was that cheap. Compared to a couple of kite lessons that is a steal. |
Just add some AFLAC is you are incident prone. And watch for 'Intermediate syndrome' it's a mean biddy... |
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eli_anderson
Since 04 Jun 2007
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| Tue Aug 25, 09 7:36 am |
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| Yardsale wrote: | | Mark wrote: | Lets see. Prices are different around the area.
Here is a basic break down.
$350 for intro course
$1500 for P2 rating (needed to be able to jump pretty much anywhere)
harness $700ish
Wing $3500
Of course you can find used wings and gear. If you take your lessons and purchase from the same guy you get a deal as well.
Probably other stuff I am spacing but that's the basics. Unlike kiting, a single wing will suffice untill you want to do Acro or Long Distance ect. |
What's involved in the P2 rating? How many Hours? .....Do you have to pass a flight test? Are there wings that are good to grow into that might cross over into Acro? Sounds like the wings might be good for several years of use. |
It's a function of time. And it's totally subjective as far as HOW Many Hours. If you are a quicker learner and show pilot proficiency, you progress and a more steady pace.
To become a P-2 there is reading, schooling, testing 64 questions. You should have had time to discuss weather. And Many other topics related to decision making. Pre-flight, flight plans, spot landing, good reverse inflations, clean running with wing over head. Lots of kiting, with a glider.
Lots of weather:
Cloud types to stay clear of. Cu Nims, verga, mamata, any precip frming rapid development. Wave Clouds?
How lift is created and complications like huge cloud suck, lift obsturctions, laps rates in cycles.
Understand Air and it fluidity, all the types of obstructions.
You need to know when not to fly.
Make a choice in what type of flying you want to do and take the steps to prepare.
you need to know how not to stall while thermaling, and what to do if a less than obvious situations arise.
Topics for P2 are endless, it's easy to go on and on, but if you are going for XC, then understanding how to read sectional aeronautical maps, and start learning all of the FAA regulations and comparisons to other air craft are pretty sweet.
GROWING INTO A WING: that isn't a great way to learn, but some areas like the coast have smooth air that keeps one from being totally surprised. You'd certainly want to speak with you instructor and get strong recommendations before you get totally crazy with your CC.
Most wings will do more than most pilots care to try! I've flown mostly DHV 1-2 and they will pull 4 or 5 g's easy, and if you learn how, some silly acro stuff is possible. |
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mojo1time
Since 28 Jul 2005
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| Tue Aug 25, 09 12:21 pm Nice work Mark |
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Way cool, also great to see you going after IT!! Nice pix and vid! You are making me think about it:)
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
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Hood River
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Kraemer
Since 24 Apr 2006
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| Wed Aug 26, 09 3:28 pm |
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Mark, you should check out the Odyssey. All they do is Kite, Paraglide, and Dive.
They have a 3000' winch on the boat.
Bams; did you meet up with Gavin & Jody over there? |
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bambam
Since 15 Mar 2005
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Hood River
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| Wed Aug 26, 09 3:41 pm Jody and Gavin |
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Nope, I have not yet hooked up with the Odyssey... But, I will eventually.
Gavin and Jody were the peeps that actually introduced me to paragliding when they were living it my place in Hood River. Two of the BEST PEOPLE in da world, and now that I am unemployed, I am hoping to finally take them up on the offer to join them on the boat.
Freaking gonna show them how to Tumble on a paraglider! OKAY, late in Austria. Ich bin DRUNK, and need to get into bed to fly tomorrow.
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JacobBee
Since 26 Oct 2008
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| Wed Aug 26, 09 6:22 pm geometric airflow wow genius evidence |
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I salute you on further evidence of scientific apparent energy equations.
Gonzoo Wai BS biochem minor math physics UW
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
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| Thu Aug 27, 09 8:22 am |
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| Kraemer wrote: | Mark, you should check out the Odyssey. All they do is Kite, Paraglide, and Dive.
They have a 3000' winch on the boat.
Bams; did you meet up with Gavin & Jody over there? |
Wow that would be fun. I now like all three.
Bams; Cool video. Did u have the Cam tied to your boot? Cool angles. Liked the sky ground sky ground sky!
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Mark
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Lurk
Since 04 Apr 2009
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| Sun Sep 13, 09 2:42 pm |
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Very cool video.
What is cost for lessons/gear? |
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Scribble
Since 18 Nov 2005
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| Sun Sep 13, 09 5:39 pm |
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| eli_anderson wrote: |
To become a P-2 there is reading, schooling, testing 64 questions. You should have had time to discuss weather. |
I've heard that 60 of the questions are all about ROTOR!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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