Access at Lyle

ascott72 · Since 25 Jul 2009 4 Posts New Member

Seriously, what's the deal with access at Lyle? I hear rumors of $1000 tickets for crossing the train tracks? but also that going under the raliroad bridge is possible?

Everyone knows that windsurfers were able to get some concessions from the railroad companies to have a crossing at Doug's Beach. Shouldn't it be possible for the CGKA (maybe with the assistance of the CGWA) to work out something similar with access at Lyle? Someone here must know about the politics involved in that.

Maybe all that is needed is a gate that comes down when trains are approaching???

mikeinhoodriver · Since 23 Apr 2009 442 Posts down wind somewhere Obsessed

...from what I've been told, this subject is a no-no. Embarassed

pdxmonkeyboy · Sat Jul 25, 09 7:07 pm **Re: Access at Lyle**

Its illegal to cross the tracks and the RR is giving out tickets. It's not a rumor. If you cross the tracks and the RR security guard is there your going to get popped.

If you think its as easy as putting a gate up, why don't you do a little research about how long and how much money the windsurfers spent getting the crossing at doug's.

K4L · Since 19 Jan 2009 483 Posts Obsessed

I believe it would also technically be called trespassing going under the bridge, still RR property whether you go over or under. According to a UP employee they usually just look the other way untill a problem arises as it has at Lyle

Tommy · Sun Jul 26, 09 12:19 am

It would be interesting to do a little research into the crossing at Doug's, actually. That's something I don't know much about, might be worth looking into. One thing is safe to say, which is that where an organization like the railroad is concerned, liability issues are usually going to trump politics. Also true that a jet ski will trump liability issues...

ascott72 · Since 25 Jul 2009 4 Posts New Member

luke · Since 06 Jul 2005 399 Posts Obsessed

This is what I remember about the Doug's Beach crossing.

The CGWA was able to proove that historically, people accessed the river at that point. This way the RR could not deny a crossing without a good reason.

Then it came down to who was going to pay to build the crossing. I heard that it was very expensive ($50,000) back 12 years ago or so. I believe the RR paid the majority, however the CGWA paid a huge sum also.

The right person at CGWA could give you all the accurate details.

Nak · Sun Jul 26, 09 9:27 am

http://cgka.net/

This is an old topic. Access was ruined by douchebags who just couldn't pay attention to a few simple guidelines. (i.e. park across the street, don't cross in view of trains.)

CGKA is working on it and is your best chance of ever re-opening access. Join & add your voice to the effort to expand & improve access throughout the area.

Bettyboarder · Sun Jul 26, 09 9:49 am

Yeah we have had this topic come up a billions times already...use the search button.......or come to the CGKA meetings.

edwindo · Since 11 Sep 2007 4 Posts New Member

I'm learning to Kite and like Lyle since its shallow and has a friendly launch. I'm concerned about getting a $1000 ticket is this just hype or have people really popped for $1000 tickets? Do others have recs for good places for beginners to learn? Confused

mschulz · Since 29 May 2007 530 Posts Reno, NV Addicted

Nak · Sun Jul 26, 09 10:10 am **Re: Lyle RR Crossing**

Tommy · Sun Jul 26, 09 2:30 pm

Mike, you could get an awful lot of free beer out of shuttling us newbs back and forth to Lyle with that boat of yours... Just sayin'. Wink

mikeinhoodriver · Since 23 Apr 2009 442 Posts down wind somewhere Obsessed

...have only done it once, been sneaking all the other times... dont tell anyone though.

Tommy · Sun Jul 26, 09 9:50 pm

Not you... him! But hey, if you got the boat, I got the beer...

ascott72 · Since 25 Jul 2009 4 Posts New Member

Okay, this topic has been done. Here are several of the other links. Please read the first one and see Forrest's comments.

Lyle
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/post-69839.html#69839

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Lyle was Wild (has some pics)
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-10405.html&highlight=lyle+access

Railroad "cop" at Lyle
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-9585-0-asc-0.html

RR Trying to shut down Lyle access
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-9607.html&highlight=lyle+access

$1000 tickets
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-13332-0-asc-0.html
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this is a lot bigger than just kiters because it seems windsurfers, fishermen, and tourists all use the area as well. But it still amazes me: HOW DIFFICULT IS IT NOT TO CROSS THE TRACKS WHEN A TRAIN IS COMING??? Seems pretty basic. and then we wouldn't have this problem.

I still think a little bit of fence and a gated crossing like they have at Doug's would solve this problem and be a win/win for everybody. (Alternatively, a crossing under the bridge)

HoodRat · Since 30 Mar 2008 199 Posts Stoked