Any Lawyers in the House?

forrest · Sun Jun 07, 09 2:15 pm **Any Lawyers in the House?**

Just thought I'd ping everyone and see if there are any lawyers here that have experience working with Participation Agreements or Waivers. I've written one, or stole one more accurately, and would like to pass it by someone. Unfortunately, I'll I can give you is a t-shirt and sticker for your effort.

Nak · Sun Jun 07, 09 6:01 pm

You guys need to form an LLC. Waivers don't really help much. They can help some, but no waiver will stop a family member from suing. You can't waive your family's right to sue.

Warning: Rant on.

Liability law in this country is designed to make law firms money. No offense to the lawyers on the board, but it's true. Just like family law. It's not designed to help the children. Any man that's been through a divorce with kids finds this out the hard way.

OK, Rant off.

pdxmonkeyboy · Sun Jun 07, 09 8:48 pm

Nak is right ..especially about the family law thing.

If your talking about next weeks slider fest I would put it all under the slider project umbrella. That is an LLC right?

Pepi · Sun Jun 07, 09 9:07 pm

Oh man, does this sh&t give me a stomach ache to think about.

2nd Wind and IPS Skate are in the same boat with this situation for our Slider Jam Party and Rail Competition.
I was thinking of adding a line in our waiver agreeing that if you attempt to sue any of us, your signing this waiver allows us to publicly humiliate you as the world's biggest douche bag for taking advantage of private individuals who are laying their asses on the line to create and support locally run events.

Ditto goes for us with the lawyer, or really more ideally insurance agent.

Speaking of which. Hey Lauren, you back in town yet?

mikeinhoodriver · Since 23 Apr 2009 442 Posts down wind somewhere Obsessed

You should check in with Bill Sumerfield, located in Hood River. Action sports kind of guy, and an attorney. Nice guy! 386-4264

forrest · Sun Jun 07, 09 9:39 pm

Thanks for the tips. The Slider Project, LLC already exists for this purpose. Also, because all this stuff we do is funded from a bunch of people in the community, there really is no single person responsible... Oh yea, on Wednesday the house goes into Katie's name. Smile

DROCK999 · Since 31 May 2007 852 Posts Left Coast Opinionated

EdG · Since 19 Dec 2005 425 Posts Just a Kook that's Obsessed

I have friend Gregory that might me in foe a fight. let me see him within the nest few days and see what turns up

jackZ · Since 13 Apr 2008 355 Posts Devon Alberta ca. Obsessed

Hey
Too bad it's like that , but I read this forum and partake at my own free will .
Now my feeling was hurt ( fam law talk , Nak )
Can I sue for this as I need new stuff , truck , new kites , money for trips to Hood river etc .Oh dear ....
My other half is from Texas and her motto is " It'll all work out in the warsh "
Thanks to people like you the laundry's getting done eh !

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

Ziggy57 · Since 09 Apr 2009 8 Posts SPI New Member

We were able to get liability insurance for the South Padre Kite Roundup by using these guys.

R V Nuccio & Associates @ 800-567-2685

The cost was based on the number of participants and spectators, it ran us around $ 600. for the 10 days.

Hope this helps.

FlyDunes · Since 09 Oct 2007 1034 Posts Aloha XTreme Poster

Here's a link to the US Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association's standard waiver form. They've got to have had some experience with this over the years...

http://www.ushpa.aero/forms/Info_USHPA_Release_Waiver.pdf

Gman · Since 11 Feb 2006 4911 Posts Portland Unstrapped

eli_anderson · Since 04 Jun 2007 507 Posts Addicted

boarderchick · Since 10 Aug 2007 196 Posts Wherever there's wind:-) Stoked

Yes, I have a liability waiver for events, clinics and camps that I'm happy to send over to you Forrest. I've actually been told by attorneys before that liability waivers are a nice-to-have item, but people can still sue, so there is no perfect waiver. Just ensure that the project is an LLC, and that you do have some verbiage about holding harmless, youself, heirs, vendors, etc.... I have that verbiage in my terms of use, and will have to double-check my waiver. Hopefully, you'll have an attorney get back to you!

forrest · Tue Jun 09, 09 8:23 am

Martin (moto) busted out an awesome review of the waiver for me. Thanks.

I understand that this is a risk, but what is life without taking risks. You can sit and watch or you can facilitate something amazing. Life is to short to be afraid.

Windance Crew · Since 18 Apr 2008 473 Posts Hood River Kite Shop Obsessed

I agree with Pepi. We should start by humiliating the wanker who is currently suing one of the the local kite schools right out of business.