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Do you use a "pivoting" spreader bar or a regular?

 
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hiker1

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PostThu Dec 04, 08 9:12 pm    Do you use a "pivoting" spreader bar or a regular? Reply with quote

On advice, I recently bought a pivoting spreader bar. I wear a Fusion seat harness as it helps to support my previously injured back.

Here is a bar pic:

http://www.oceanextremesports.com/catalog/images/pivoting_spreader_bar.jpg

As advertised... it has an articulating hook that travels upward with kite tension and allows the main bar and webbing to stay in a neutral position. The unique hook shape offers an alternative to shackles and reduces inadvertent harness line release.

I was also told it reduces the harness digging into my ribs when flying it high in the wind window. Yet I also wonder if it screws with stance and/or line tension (cause it moves up/down) as I try to dial in the right angle to fly upwind or whatever the heck I'm working on (which is everything!!!). Been riding since this July...

Do y'all use the pivot or regular bars? Notice a difference?

Appreciate the kite wisdom!!! Very Happy

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Kataku2k3

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PostThu Dec 04, 08 9:20 pm     Reply with quote

Had one on my '02 Dakine Tabu back in the day and liked it. Because the old harnesses didn't have the anti ride-up strap like the Mystics nowadays, it did help to keep the harnesses down. Basically just gives the kite less leverage to rotate the bar into your ribs, but I only found it to be affective when the kite was overhead, in neutral. For normal riding, I didn't notice any difference aside from the fact that it was a bit harder to unhook (since it could "flap" around).

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Dec 04, 08 9:47 pm     Reply with quote

yeah, there is no real difference. with the harness you have, that bar will work great.

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Moto

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PostThu Dec 04, 08 10:02 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
yeah, there is no real difference. with the harness you have, that bar will work great.


agreed - when you start trying unhooked stuff you may want to experiement with a fixed bar - but until then the pivoting one should be fine.

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tautologies

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PostSat Dec 06, 08 2:08 am     Reply with quote

hey be really careful with the pivoting spreaderbar. The weld is really not very good, and I've been replacing them a bunch of times...when it breaks it can really slice your hand.

..I use both pivoting and fixed spreader bars..in general, when I use the dakine harnesses, I like to have the fixing screw in so the spreaderbar does not come off if you try anything from toeside....in addition keep an eye on the weld...IMO it just isn't up to par...I also use the fixed naish one that has a locking mechanism so the spreaderbar does not come off the harness.

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Inept_Fun

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PostSat Dec 06, 08 6:29 pm     Reply with quote

I use a dakine spreader bar that pivots up and down. I like it, but it doesnt really pivot all too much anyways.
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Moto

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PostSat Dec 06, 08 7:51 pm     Reply with quote

tautologies wrote:
hey be really careful with the pivoting spreaderbar. The weld is really not very good, and I've been replacing them a bunch of times...when it breaks it can really slice your hand.



never heard of this before - but the manufacturer would have to be really careful with that because that sounds like a law suit waiting to happen.

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tautologies

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PostSun Dec 07, 08 3:34 am     Reply with quote

terremoto wrote:
tautologies wrote:
hey be really careful with the pivoting spreaderbar. The weld is really not very good, and I've been replacing them a bunch of times...when it breaks it can really slice your hand.



never heard of this before - but the manufacturer would have to be really careful with that because that sounds like a law suit waiting to happen.


For sure. Nak actually had a look at my last pivoting one, when he ws here some weeks ago. It lasted my about 3-4 months (mixed use between pivoting and a regular). I have no competency on welding, but he said the weld was low quality because the metal is too thin, and seems to be different materials.

I think I still have it...I can post some pics, if interested.

p.s. I'm not saying don't use it..just be careful..monitor it.
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hiker1

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PostSun Dec 07, 08 10:15 am     Reply with quote

tautologies wrote:
For sure. Nak actually had a look at my last pivoting one, when he ws here some weeks ago. It lasted my about 3-4 months (mixed use between pivoting and a regular). I have no competency on welding, but he said the weld was low quality because the metal is too thin, and seems to be different materials.

I think I still have it...I can post some pics, if interested.

p.s. I'm not saying don't use it..just be careful..monitor it.
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Thanks to the good advice in this forum, I think I will stick with the regular bar for now. Where it is nice to not have as much pulling on the harness, as a new rider - I'm also performing those unintended maneuvers (and crashes) as I dial in this fantastic sport; why use a piece of equipment that is sub-par or prone to breakage? Shit, I already have plenty to think about keeping myself (and others) safe.

Good tips all! Smile

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