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genek
Since 21 Jul 2006
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Haha, nice one Stringer.
Mike, excellent points. I admire your ability to stay focused on what you want for the country regardless of partisan BS.
A true patriot is someone who wants to make things better and provides good reasons to support his/her arguments, not someone who blindly follows people that claim they're patriots and do as they please.
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:25 pm |
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Ack its GeneK the commie! 
I think my excel spreadsheet may have got ignored by hamlindpppd based on his response, so here is a screenshot.
Stephen Colbert says: "I'm not a fan of facts. You see, the facts can change, but my opinion will never change, no matter what are the facts."
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pkh
Since 27 Feb 2005
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:33 pm |
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Nak - your opinions are really refreshing... I think the republican party will rebuild and come back stronger in a few years. I hope the resulting party is one that returns to more of a focus on fiscal conservatism and not just the "social wedge" issues.
Really we need the two sides to have checks & balances. I think its part of what makes the country work.
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genek
Since 21 Jul 2006
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:35 pm |
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Phil, don't be surprised if you hear a knock on the door tonight. Some reds might be coming for ya.
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kyle.vh
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:39 pm |
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this country owes a debt of gratitude to Nak, and the millions of voters like him who are intellectually honest enough to put country above party.
hindlimp:
your ranting post is entirely unthoughtful talking-points mixed with pseduo-conspiracy theory. i find it sad that you can completely ignore this historic moment when Americans have taken a serious step at erasing the stain of slavery and we see the fruit of the civil rights movement.
Ironic that you can completely ignore that when the civil rights movement is a shining example of what christianity can do for social change.
Next up? Notice that Obama referenced all americans "gay and straight".
I hope that scares you. I know it does.
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Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:43 pm |
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| kyle.vh wrote: | this country owes a debt of gratitude to Nak, and the millions of voters like him who are intellectually honest enough to put country above party.
hindlimp:
your ranting post is entirely unthoughtful talking-points mixed with pseduo-conspiracy theory. i find it sad that can completely ignore this historic moment when Americans have taken a serious step at erasing the stain of slavery and we see the fruit of the civil rights movement.
Ironic that you can completely ignore that when the civil rights movement is a shining example of what christianity can do for social change.
Next up? Notice that Obama referenced all americans "gay and straight".
I hope that scares you. I know it does. |
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chanson
Since 31 Jan 2006
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 1:53 pm |
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I thought it was hilarious last night after Obama spoke..
they were taking calls from all parties, and this guy from Michigan called
"I just want to say how disapointed I am in America and everyone who voted for Obama....I mean, the only reason he got into school was b/c he got some letter from someone else that wasn't true, blah, blah, blah..."
Then the reporter said, "I don't understand"
"Well, I read it on the internet somewhere.."
The reporter says, "Do you belive everythign you read on the internet..?"
Well, I don't know, i just don't think Obama should be president."
(hang-up)
Hope they saved that recording.
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DrewB
Since 16 Aug 2006
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| hamlindp wrote: | | Barack Obama, with his mysterious past and messianic aura, then burst upon the scene with the focused purpose of capitalizing on the public's perceived woes by offering dramatic change and unspecified hope...... |
I didn't have the time to read the whole rant, but this portion caught my eye. I think I know where you are going with this logic: Obama is the anti-Christ  .
Seriously dude, lay off the Fox News and read some real books. Listen to NPR/OPB for a week. It will do you good. And please don't tell me that you love me  .
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boardrider
Since 05 Apr 2006
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 2:07 pm |
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| Chooch wrote: | | kyle.vh wrote: | this country owes a debt of gratitude to Nak, and the millions of voters like him who are intellectually honest enough to put country above party.
hindlimp:
your ranting post is entirely unthoughtful talking-points mixed with pseduo-conspiracy theory. i find it sad that can completely ignore this historic moment when Americans have taken a serious step at erasing the stain of slavery and we see the fruit of the civil rights movement.
Ironic that you can completely ignore that when the civil rights movement is a shining example of what christianity can do for social change.
Next up? Notice that Obama referenced all americans "gay and straight".
I hope that scares you. I know it does. |
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 2:27 pm |
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| chanson wrote: | I thought it was hilarious last night after Obama spoke..
they were taking calls from all parties, and this guy from Michigan called
"I just want to say how disapointed I am in America and everyone who voted for Obama....I mean, the only reason he got into school was b/c he got some letter from someone else that wasn't true, blah, blah, blah..."
Then the reporter said, "I don't understand"
"Well, I read it on the internet somewhere.."
The reporter says, "Do you belive everythign you read on the internet..?"
Well, I don't know, i just don't think Obama should be president."
(hang-up)
Hope they saved that recording. |
what is the value in saving it? To further enhance the disrespect of those with different political leanings?
You can find uninformed quotes, recordings and pure ignorance from all political perspectives. If you think this individual is reflective of the anti Obama crowds level of intellect or reasoning skills, you would be dead wrong.
People tend to listen to and believe information that fulfill their preconceived opinions of their political opposition. When this occurs health political discourse stops and does none of us any good. We will all swirl down the toilet together.
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Bonetti
Since 29 Apr 2007
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 2:32 pm |
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| chanson wrote: | I thought it was hilarious last night after Obama spoke..
they were taking calls from all parties, and this guy from Michigan called
"I just want to say how disapointed I am in America and everyone who voted for Obama....I mean, the only reason he got into school was b/c he got some letter from someone else that wasn't true, blah, blah, blah..."
Then the reporter said, "I don't understand"
"Well, I read it on the internet somewhere.."
The reporter says, "Do you belive everythign you read on the internet..?"
Well, I don't know, i just don't think Obama should be president."
(hang-up)
Hope they saved that recording. |
I know that guy he's right, I saw a picture that shows Obama was born in Iraq!!!!!
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 2:34 pm |
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| kyle.vh wrote: | this country owes a debt of gratitude to Nak, and the millions of voters like him who are intellectually honest enough to put country above party.
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Isn't it a bit intellectually dishonest to assume that the repub's did not vote for obama were putting party above country and are intellectually dishonest?
In my opinion you diminish you argument by making blanket statements such as this which have no basis in truth.
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boardrider
Since 05 Apr 2006
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Get back to work Bonetti
Wind & surf have been pretty good
<------ 666 - I must be the anti-christ
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| DrewB wrote: | | hamlindp wrote: | | Barack Obama, with his mysterious past and messianic aura, then burst upon the scene with the focused purpose of capitalizing on the public's perceived woes by offering dramatic change and unspecified hope...... |
I didn't have the time to read the whole rant, but this portion caught my eye. I think I know where you are going with this logic: Obama is the anti-Christ .
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Nothing from Hamilindp about Anti Christ.
I guess you ignored this statement though.
| Yardsale wrote: | ........oh I should stop thinking out loud! I would have voted for Al Sharpton if it would have gotten Bush and Cheney and their satanic minions out of the oval office. Thank goodness an eloquent, intelligent, and spiritual man such as Obama was available to take the reins.
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Is it ok To bring up the whole evil thing when it is about Bush Cheney but not Obama?
Like Nak said. "Name calling never changed anyone's mind, or accomplished anything at all useful for that matter."
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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| Wed Nov 05, 08 2:49 pm |
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| pkh wrote: |
Really we need the two sides to have checks & balances. I think its part of what makes the country work. |
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lance_k
Since 04 May 2005
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| hamlindp wrote: | Obama's entire campaign had been based on the need for radical, transformational change, which implies there is something very wrong with America.
It's hardly surprising, then, that he has painted the bleakest picture of America instead of acknowledging, as a starting point, that we are still the greatest nation in the world.
For the past eight years, Democrats have slandered America as an imperialistic country that always prefers force to diplomacy; that attacks nations without provocation to enrich itself and to project its power; that intentionally targets civilian lives; that encourages sadistic torture of enemy prisoners, as opposed to tough interrogation techniques to extract information to save the lives of its people; that eavesdrops on private conversations among its citizens rather than monitoring terrorist communications into its borders; and that abuses rather than goes out of its way to accommodate the savages in Guantanamo's prison. None of it is true.
For eight years, Democrats have poor-mouthed the mostly growing economy. They've lied that Bush's tax cuts for all income groups were only for the wealthy and that the cuts reduced revenues. They pretend to be deficit hawks, when Obama's new spending plans alone will make Bush look like Scrooge. They said Bush wanted to destroy Social Security, when he's the only one in the past 20 years who had the courage to try to reform it. All lies.
They've preached bipartisanship while exhibiting the nastiest partisanship in my lifetime, calling Bush "King George III," "Hitler," a "murderer," a "war criminal," a "reckless cowboy," a "moron" and a "Christian throwback." They've caricatured Bush as an unbending partisan who wouldn't reach across the aisle, in the face of his countless and mostly rebuffed bipartisan overtures and legislation. More disinformation.
They've deliberately divided this nation on the basis of race, class, gender and religion while telling us, falsely, that conservatives are racists, greedy, sexists, homophobes and religious bigots.
Democrats, the liberal media and leftist bloggers -- have portrayed President Bush, Vice President Cheney and America as dark and evil forces and have whipped the country into a frenzy of desperation, setting the table for a charismatic leader to deliver us from the despair they've manufactured with relentless precision.
Barack Obama, with his mysterious past and messianic aura, then burst upon the scene with the focused purpose of capitalizing on the public's perceived woes by offering dramatic change and unspecified hope. As if the script had been written just for him, he stepped right into his role, expanding on this theme of despair. He stressed how bleak conditions are, how unfair America is to the less fortunate and middle class, how ugly America is in foreign affairs, how the values of average Americans are warped (bitter clingers), how hardworking producers who oppose confiscatory tax rates but who contribute more to charity than Obama and his running mate even contemplate are selfish, and how America is a global environmental menace.
With all respect, almost everything about Obama's campaign was fraudulent. He masquerades as a uniter while dividing, polarizing and alienating us. He denies he's liberal, when objective sources score him as the most liberal senator. He says he barely knows militants and radicals with whom he has spent his lifetime cavorting and whose worldviews -- horrifyingly -- he shares. He brazenly disguises welfare redistributions as tax cuts. He and his surrogates kept changing his tax plan.
With his ideas about spreading the wealth, entrepreneurial selfishness, the ongoing "original sin" in our Constitution, the inherent evil of corporations, nationalized health care, and the civil rights movement not doing enough to bring about "economic justice" -- a euphemism for "Marxism" used by radicals, such as Bill Ayers, who still hate America -- aren't you concerned at just how far Obama might go if he's got a nearly veto-proof Democratic majority at his back?
With his known discomfort with American exceptionalism, his naive mindset about good and evil in the world, his reckless underestimation of threats to America, his stated intention to disarm our nuclear weapons unilaterally, his open-borders extremism, his willingness to relax our intelligence monitoring, and his misguided concern for terrorists' rights, how can America be as secure under his watch? |
whoa. um... speechless.
maybe this will make you feel better homie.
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