Coastal winchin

forrest · Mon Nov 03, 08 9:41 am

Definitely need to have a way of mounting it on top of a vehicle, the added height will make a difference.

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Nov 03, 08 10:18 am

Mark · Mon Nov 03, 08 10:21 am

Wonder if we can build a separate movable post with a fairlead roller that would be higher. That way you could set it up to get a better angle for pulling or so the line would clear any obstacles.

forrest · Mon Nov 03, 08 10:25 am

A steeper vector (not solid on my terminology here) of pull will influence the height and ease of your ollies, will soften the landings, and make it feel more like kiting.

Chooch · Mon Nov 03, 08 10:29 am

Are you promoting More Dangle???????? Laughing

Gman · Since 11 Feb 2006 4911 Posts Portland Unstrapped

we were scoping out the third floor hotel room balconies above Mo's Laughing

Astro isn't welcome at Mo's anymore - he went back for seconds

genek · Since 21 Jul 2006 2165 Posts East Po KGB

Kataku2k3 · Since 14 Aug 2005 3753 Posts Los Angeles, CA Videographer

Mounting on top of a car/truck isn't really going to do shit with a 1000' of line. Even at 250' out, mounting it 10' above the ground only gives you an angle of ~2.3 degrees. At 1000' out and 10' up you're down to ~0.6 degrees! Confused

genek · Since 21 Jul 2006 2165 Posts East Po KGB

Good info Adam.

The biggest problem was having to have the winch so far away from the water due to sneaker waves. That's why setting it up somewhere like the jetty where it can sit in line with the waves without danger of getting splashed will help a ton. Then you'll be getting pulled down the line on the waves instead of having to edge hard to get out to em.

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Nov 03, 08 11:31 am

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Nov 03, 08 11:34 am

forrest · Mon Nov 03, 08 12:08 pm

I think you're missing the point. If the sag of the rope (Does your equation take into account rope sag?), or the pull point assuming the rope doesn't sag, is below the feature you're trying to hit, or wave you're trying to ride/pop off of, you're being pulled down at some unknown negative angle which results in more difficulty. Getting rid of that negative angle makes a huge difference, even in just getting up on the board in the first place.

I'm not suggesting you dangle (Think this thing could lift you off the ground?), just suggesting you elevate it for the same reason wake board boats have towers.

Chooch · Mon Nov 03, 08 12:14 pm

We're just bustin your chops Forrest Razz

forrest · Mon Nov 03, 08 12:45 pm

I'm offended and won't be hanging out with you guys anymore!

pdxmonkeyboy · Mon Nov 03, 08 12:57 pm

Forest, If I could describe the situation in binary language, you may understand. But Adam is right on.

yes, wakeboard boats have towers. And how long is a typical wakeboard rope? Typically around 50'.

So draw a triangle with the base being 50' long and the height being say..15 feet (your tower). the angle of the hypotenuese (i.e. the angle of the rope in relation to the water as realized by the wakesurfer is 17.4 degrees). Not exactly a huge vertical vector.

Now, lets attach a 800 foot winch line to the position of that tower. So your winch is elevated above the beach 15' by some stupid ass system.. Now the angle of the rope at the wake surfer 1.06 degrees.

I guess as your coming off of a jump it would technically be pulling you down but the angle is so small, it ain't going to matter.

genek · Since 21 Jul 2006 2165 Posts East Po KGB

The rope would still sag down to the beach unless you're real close to the winch from the weight of the rope.

PMB, not sure if guys did anything with winch last night since we didn't ride back together. It definitely got "rinsed" by the squalls that came through, but no WD40. It'd probably be a good idea to rinse it again with fresh water while it's running and then spray it down.

pacifichigh · Since 11 May 2005 1004 Posts ATX Texan

65-85' is normal for behind a boat