The Coast!

pdxmonkeyboy · Thu Aug 21, 08 8:53 am

OK yeah, so you had a good session on the coast, and maybe you had a couple of other good days out there. I think what everyone is sooooo tired of, is you taking your relatively small amount of real world experience and then coming on the forum and posting up your own "here is how its done" article. As if your the end all, be all on the subject of kiteboarding.

The funny thing is you say you don't care what anyone thinks, blah blah blah, but there you are time and time again posting up your little self help pieces that you know (or you should know) are going to catch a bunch of shit from people because THERE IS so misinformation in what you speak.

The bottom line for people who want to start kiting at the coast is this:

The coast can be SERIOUS and should be treated with respect. Go with someone who knows what is going on, discuss the conditions of the day and what to look out for. If the waves are head high or better, you might want to get some time under your belt before charging out to them (if you forget this, you will quickly remember the first time you start to make a turn and a 12 foot high wall of water jacks up behind you. Be smart, dress appropriately, and have a good time.

The real skills in this sport and the ability to take on any situation come from first hand experience. Not you-tube, not magazines, and not from the forums. If you want to learn something specific then ask someone who is actually doing it.

You will find however that the best kiteboarders in this area, the ones with the most knowledge, are NOT the people who are known for walking around telling everyone how it is done--either on here or in public. Typically though, they are more than happy to lend some advice if you ask them.

Spike · Since 13 May 2007 1414 Posts Alameda Spelling Expert

Mark, are you saying you unhook, and lay in a streamlined position while holding onto the chickenloop? It seems, like you said, that this could drastically reduce the pressure in the kite, good idea.

Hein · Since 08 Mar 2005 1314 Posts Possessed

see below:

Chooch · Thu Aug 21, 08 8:57 am

Mark · Thu Aug 21, 08 8:58 am

I actually hold on to the safety line. when pressure gets to great I let it slip thru my hands in a controled way. Once the pressure has reduced I pull my way back up the line. Yes I swim and kick towards the kite.

This seems to work well for me in smaller head high and less waves.

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

Spike · Since 13 May 2007 1414 Posts Alameda Spelling Expert

Mark · Thu Aug 21, 08 9:14 am

scottnorby · Thu Aug 21, 08 9:20 am

wow.

Pretty crazy conversation.

Wind Slither has a lot of experience in the ocean.
As does Barfly.

I think if you need advice those boys can give it if you PM them.

I heard a rumor that I was being pegged as the asshole that tends to think he 'rules the beach'.
But really I am a very laid back guy who LOVES the north coast and wants my family to be able to kite here in the years to come.

This thread is just proof that there really do need to be some community rules about kiting on the beach.

Because the beach CAN and HAS BEEN shut down to kiting in many areas of the U.S.
So Cal has more beaches OFF limits than ON.

It's all fun and games until a tourist loses a finger.

In all scenarios a kiter needs to think about others more than himself.

Spread out.
Keep your kite to yourself.
And don't put a kite down near tourists or allow them to help you land it.

That's just my humble opinion.

sleestack · Since 07 Dec 2006 184 Posts Land of the Lost Stoked

You're a tool bluae99, and you've gone too far
'Cause you don't know correct advice matters anyway
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
It's a bitch bluae99 but it's gone too far
'Cause you don't give proper kiting advice anyway
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Get you too far

And don't you know, don't you know
Much about proper ocean kiting technique anyway
So far gone, on your advice, but how could you be wrong?
You can't seem to listen from others on the forum or get along
You over-post and are often wrong
'Cause

You're a tool bluae99, and you've gone too far
'Cause you don't know correct advice matters anyway
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
It's a bitch bluae99 but it's gone too far
'Cause you don't give proper kiting advice anyway
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Get you too far

High and dry, and out of the ocean waves
It's so easy to hurt others spewing out your misconstrued, unsolicited ways
And don't you know that your kiting skills can't grow
'Cause you like to give out your limited experience rather than listen and live from watching the show
For the thrill of it all, oh

You're a tool bluae99, and you've gone too far
'Cause you don't know correct advice matters anyway
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
You can't rely on bluae99's advice like the old man's money
It's a bitch bluae99 but it's gone too far
'Cause you don't give proper kiting advice anyway
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Get you too far

And bluae99 you convey your experience like it is the proper way
You can rely on my advice like the old man's money
You can rely on my advice like the old man's money
But your a Tool bluae99, a Tool bluae99
Oh, you're a STANLEY 3-in-1 multi-use TOOL Bluae99 yeah
Use your advice but it won't get you too far,
Oh, get ya too far

Bluae99: If you have not seem the Randy Pausch “last Lecture”, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5_MqicxSo minute 9:40 to 10:20 approx. Great speech!

Within the lecture he states that when peers stop criticizing you, that is when you should be worried because it means they stop caring anymore and have given up on you. This is somewhat appropriate because the forum and kiting community don’t want you to get injured and even more so, give out faulty advice, which may lead to others getting injured and dying.

Take the razzing and advice with a grain of salt, maybe two. . . Keep the stoke alive, but maybe think before you type and post next time.

Spike · Since 13 May 2007 1414 Posts Alameda Spelling Expert

BAHAHAHAAHAA!!!

registered · Since 12 Jul 2005 1319 Posts tsunami Sandbagger

So when I flail in big waves with a kite in the water I unhook if it doesn't look like immediate relaunch

A kite can pull you a bit with out being trashed but not always.

try to relaunch its good practice. The kite usually gets rolled by another wave a micro second before it leaves the water. so then you start the relaunch again.

if all else fails....then ....

Letting your kite flag out in the waves is usually sufficient to not get a panel tore out but not always.

waves are intervalled good for taking breathes...... like most big scary swims you must get your head thinking about efficiency and breathing for the swim. this usually includes keeping your board in management/ proximity.

The kite usually is a aid in returning to the beach weather in the air or being wrapped about by waves.

the kite usually does not need to be fully ejected.

swimming through big waves(double or more) with no board or kite is no fun at all . Usually when your the most itred nearing shore then those damn rips mess with you.

be safe.......lets all have a good fall big wave season.

Bulue.. most of us act like kids on the forum ...........enjoy. don't take things personally.
act like you would if a troubled 12 year old said it to you.

jahmbi · Since 28 Jul 2005 622 Posts MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN River Troll

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BigRoi · Since 13 Apr 2008 8 Posts HR New Member

Whether you started kiting in the beginning...or are a beginner now, rule number one is DON'T CRASH YOUR KITE! Especially at the coast. oi

solkiter · Since 07 Jan 2008 251 Posts ROGUE VALLEY Obsessed

well ? ben ridin the oregon coast for a couplke years now Question

and (AND IVE ONLEY DONE THREE DOWNWINDERS?
so yes we do go and not plan to do any kind of"DONNWINDERS"!!

Razz

the truth is the "TRUTH"
remember "indeviduallity it does exist !!
some beople do do there own thing , still in this world!!!! Twisted Evil

"PEACE"!!!!! Idea