The Coast!

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

Scott,
I hear ya the little shit is the most overall fun
But I can't get enough of the big shit either (it's coming tonight)

If I was a good surfer I could get power in my turns
but alas,I suck Embarassed

So in a faux bad ass surfer dude persona, Evil or Very Mad

I turn my kite when I turn my board to add
Powah to my sorry lame ass weak turns
it also keeps the dangle down to a dull roar
and my tangles to a minimum
Only way to ride big surf
Is FaST

bustingbladder · Since 12 Jul 2006 387 Posts Seattle Obsessed

Wind Slither · Since 04 Mar 2005 2624 Posts The 503 METAL

Quote: Do you really have that low of a self concept that you need to attack me as a person and not stay on the subject.

If you were standing in front of me would you call me a wanker? I doubt it.

You got something to say to me then say it to me on a pm. If you don't like my content then make a constructive comment.

Ron

Ron,

Here is my deal. I attack you because you continually qualify yourself as someone who should be giving out advice (publicly and unsolicited)...and repeatedly you show that you are not qualified. Being seen as a knowledgable "expert" seems to be very important to you, but you are not willing to put your time in to really know what you are talking about. Your posts range from boring and annoying to outright dangerous.

I'm sure you copied your list of tips out of the last magizine you read and couldn't wait to start a new thread. Telling a beginner to let go of his kite, when it might be the only thing to pull him out of the impact zone and into safety is beyond stupid...it's absolutely dangerous.
It shows alot about your experience on the Oregon Coast and why you should be asking for advice not giving it out.

A lot of people have asked you politely to tone it down, and you refuse. That's why things get less polite.

Confused

dangerD · Since 27 Jun 2005 223 Posts Bingen Heights Stoked

quote: "4. Go with friends or make some when you get there."
If you don't have any, and can't make any 'cause you're obnoxious,
just post any and all inane bullshit you come up with
Don't kite...
Post!

bulae99 · Since 12 Jul 2006 1692 Posts XTreme Poster

Your attack and name calling of me, "wanker" ect.. is justified because you and others don't like my posts? Is that your logic. Followed by "tone it down.."

Don't like my posts..Don't read em.

Your a piece of work windslither. I look forward to meeting you and .....talking.... about this in person. It will be a pleasure to meet you and discuss qualifications.

Back to the post..Releasing your kite in the impact zone is good if you are close to shore. Are you indicating, Windslither, that hanging onto kite and lines in impact zone is a rule in the surf?

registered · Since 12 Jul 2005 1319 Posts tsunami Sandbagger

Yeah those inocent families don't need all thier body parts..... release you kite at them. its a last resort not a plan.... even w/o a leash you grab an oh shit handle.

being called a wanker is only as bad as how you apply it to yourself seems like you have the self application of the word under control for this situation. Laughing

bulae99 · Since 12 Jul 2006 1692 Posts XTreme Poster

Are you guys familiar with dialectic behavior therapy? It's the idea that a rational response to a social stimulas fits the situation and is appropriate. You tell me which part of windslither's post is appropriate social interaction?

His post as well as some the bullshit you other guys type from the comfort of you living room is stuff you would never say in public to anyone. I guarentee you won't walk up to me and say that to my face. Because the consequences are not going to be the same as if you do it here on nwkite.com. I'll be standing there in front of you and you will think about what is appropriate and what is not.

It's one thing to say that you don't agree and then add to the post. It's entirely another when you attack, name call and then talk down to any person including me. Then on top of that you rationalize this behavior because you have a different opinion based on your experience.

Ok, so registered, you support windsliter's use of name calling and disagree with me telling people to let go of their kite because of all the people hanging out on the beach..right?

HOw could you add to this post in positive way like you would if you were having a conversation with me at lot b?

tinyE · Since 21 Jan 2006 2004 Posts not really an XTreme Poster

dude...

slither is right... I can say from first hand... you shouldn't dump your kite in the impact zone... you might drown, and if you don't, your kite is going to happen upon some unsuspecting victim, or even worse, they try to grab it...wheee...

Maybe as a last resort, lines are going to tangle around you if you don't get rid of it , but that kite could save your life.... actually, i think i helped drag you in at manzanita one time after I had dumped my kite and swam in. You didn't dump your kite then, so why the change of heart?

I've met mistah slitha, and I think he's pretty chill...and I agree with him a bit that your posts are becoming a little 'self-inflated'. Other than your title of 'expert kiter', I don't really see what qualifies you at all to be offering unsolicited advice (or why). What qualifies your opinion as correct? Do you just need an outlet?

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

there are many reasons to discharge your kite
but you had better be sure none of the lines are wrapped
around any of your body
because if a wave catches your kite and a line that you cannot see is wrapped around your _____
you will notice it becoming tight,
if it's your leg you will not be able to get to it
until the wave lets your kite go
and if like yesterday that might be a while Wink

very dangerous to let your kite go if lines slack

Gman · Since 11 Feb 2006 4911 Posts Portland Unstrapped

Listen to Blowhard

After getting munched on the outside yesterday (the wind was bit marginal on the outside but the waves were super clean)

the first thing i wanted to do was PANIC and scream a little bit
when I went over the falls I pulled the kite out of the sky (board gone)
miraculously didn't get wrapped in the lines

also lucky the next series of sets was smaller - head and half and breaking a bit closer in so I had a few minutes outside the impact zone

bad news is that the waves completely shadowed the wind on the surface and the kite wouldn't even turn away just sat leading edge facing me

figured the best bet was to work on relaunch until I got destroyed
1. Unhooked
2. Released my safety leash
3. worked like hell to relaunch

the edge of one wave hit the kite (held on to chicken loop preparing to let go) force wasn't too bad so held on

wind filled back in and got it relaunched with only one twist in the lines
Praise the Lord

body surfed back to beach where Mick was waiting to see how the train wreck panned out

my board magically washes up 100ft away a minute later

stuck to the inside for the rest of the session

Spike · Since 13 May 2007 1414 Posts Alameda Spelling Expert

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

stuck to the inside for the rest of the session[/quote]

WORD PAL!!!! Cool

Wind Slither · Since 04 Mar 2005 2624 Posts The 503 METAL

boardrider · Since 05 Apr 2006 1034 Posts Ventura, CA XTreme Poster

Bluae - I seriously think you should check out the book below. It's a little dated, but has some good sh*t it it for how to interact w/ people. I'm particularly inept at this, and should read it again Confused

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**IF you would have approached this topic a little differently, you may have been able to tap into the wealth of wave knowledge the OR coast guru's have, instead of illiciting conflict.

Slither was one of the guys that showed me the ropes at the OR coast, and he is indeed a cool guy Cool

bulae99 · Since 12 Jul 2006 1692 Posts XTreme Poster

On Sat of last week I went out on my 11 meter and my 6-2 surfboard. I was about half way to ship wreck and underpowered, but the waves were good and I was able to generate enough power to get on some terrific 3 to 5 foot waves.

I was being careful to stay inside within 150 yards of the beach, just at the point where the waves are catchable prior to breaking.

On my way out I spy a nice wave coming in about ready to peak so I start to turn and get right on the wave and downloop my kite to keep my power up and boom I dump my kite directly in the front of the wave.

At this point I'm in the water and kite is down. I keep tension on the lines and attempt to relaunch after the wave spins it one time an pulls me forward. I'm ok at this point and decide to try and relaunch as I don't want to swim without trying. My kite responds to me fishing and I almost have a wing up and then another wave rolls it and I decide to disconnect. I'm nowhere near anyone on the beach. It's a safe disconnect.

As I watch my kite roll in the waves I look back to see my board. I know that if I wait and keep an eye on it I will have a basic chance of it coming back my location on shore.

I body surf back to shore, I'm wearing a 4/3 promotion suit, and run my kite down and drag it to shore. Luckily the lines are not all tangled up and I'm able to walk the kite out and set it back up for a relaunch.

I'm looking for my board and there it is!!!

So, correct me if I'm wrong but don't call me names; here is what I learned from this session.

1. It was a good idea to dump my kite, rather than freak out trying to relaunch it in the impact zone. Surf was small wind was very light.
2. I was kiting with a good friend and we were keeping an eye on each other. He checked on me as I was swimming in and I let him know I was ok.
3. Relaunching was a great idea as I had the best wave of the day after my dump. One wave was so clean it reminded me of pure surfing as my kite just hung there and I almost outran it just on the wave alone. Very cool experinece.
4. After this session I was exhausted and actually realized that swimming laps and running do come in handy for kiteboarding. Fitness level is a thing to consider when you are at the coast.

Ok there you have.

Mark · Thu Aug 21, 08 8:39 am

Here is another idea.
When I drop the kite in the impact zone, I unhook. I keep pressure on the lines and bar (at this point I have already tried to relaunch.) I keep the pressure on as a wave hits the kite. I then let the kite, bar ect slid out. I am ready to eject completely but dont like to. then as the wave passes I pull my way back up the line to my bar. Repeat as necessary. This serves two main purposes. It helps regulate the pressure against the kite, so it doesnt get ripped. It also helps tow me to shore.

Hope that makes sense.

Gman · Since 11 Feb 2006 4911 Posts Portland Unstrapped

If the waves are big and if your kite gets caught you may not be able to get your hands to the kite leash release - the force of the kite underwater has pulled me a long way with my arms trailed out behind like a squid

may want to hit the release first