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barfly
Since 31 Mar 2005
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Portland
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 Mon Jul 29, 13 2:54 pm |
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| ldhr wrote: |
if you mean it allows your whole harness to slide around - instead of just the hook - that may be ok for you.......but it took me 100 days of kiting for my waist harness to comform to my body shape.... the last thing i want is the wide back support to slide around and the lumbar support to be under my arm pits.
I have my 6" bar mounted on a 10 inch piece of webbing..... the bar slides from side to side..... cost me $20.00. Works great.
P.S. I bought the Dakine slider for $70.00. It's too wide. I have a 33 inch waist and the metal bar goes from one hip to my other..... and it doesn't slide! It's engineered with too tight a tolerance and it's too tight to slide on the webbing. |
Ya, I like your solution too. Low cost and low tech being my primary reason for the rashy. Don't have any problems with the harness slipping up around my chest. Funny you mention that your harness took a lot to conform to your waist. That is why I got a new harness. IMO conforming to your waist means "packed out" and doesn't offer the support you want, my back was getting sore b/c the harness was weak. Everyone's got a different take on it I'm sure.
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kieran
Since 06 Jul 2011
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 3:11 pm Re: Red Ball |
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| 1surfer wrote: | What is the bar release actually for ? Can I disable it ? Should I ? ( prolly never use it )
Would I ever want to run my leash from the ring ? Is the black bungee really necessary ?
I would like to get rid of the ring, red ball and possibly even the black bungee just to trim thing down. The ring makes a "ching ching" noise like spurs when I ride and it makes me feel like a cowboy. Yeee Ha !  |
So you can release the whole thing in one pull - really intended for overhead+ conditions.
I removed the pin, the ring, and the ball, just run the dyneema with the bungee. It's super simple and gives a really natural feel.
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nickdward
Since 11 Aug 2008
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Seattle
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 4:29 pm |
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Here's my setup: hacksawed off the hook and tied a rope around the spreader bar with a shackle to hook into the chickenloop (or shackle...or bowline).
It's pretty sick to be able to jump on your board and start paddling if you drop your kite or whatever.
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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| Mon Jul 29, 13 8:37 pm |
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| nickdward wrote: |
It's pretty sick to be able to jump on your board and start paddling if you drop your kite or whatever.
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That's pretty dope
- I always spend too much energy trying to loosen my harness and spin it around backwards when I have to paddle in after a beat down
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knotwindy
Since 25 Sep 2011
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| Tue Jul 30, 13 7:12 am |
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| Sweet setup. Is there a reason you do not just hook the chicken loop through the rope itself? wear issues? if so, which wears first, the loop or the line?
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nickdward
Since 11 Aug 2008
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Seattle
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| Tue Jul 30, 13 7:43 am |
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I used to connect straight to the rope, then switched to a ring on the rope. The chickenloop was showing small signs of wear when sliding on the rope (not a problem with my shackle bar)
I ended up going with the shackle on the rope because it was annoying to have to activate the chicken loop quick release everytime. Also this way you have 2 safety releases.
I prefer using the bar with the shackle chickenloop because its more low profile and you can sheer in extra far
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SalmonSlayer
Since 27 Nov 2005
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| Tue Jul 30, 13 11:05 pm |
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I have posted these before, but I think it is relevant to this topic. It is nice to see harness design conventional wisdom questioned.
I like to experiment with different approaches to equipment design, but, I limit myself to off-the-shelf materials and tools that are found in the average garage. Here are a couple of versions I am experimenting with right now. I still use the Dynabar, but, these versions satisfy my desire to tinker around.
The last pic is a slider with a Sure fire QR. I am using it with a bar that does not have a QR. You can make the same set up with a ring instead of the Surefire QR for well under $10. There are a lot of bars with bent hooks floating around. Just grind off the hook and add a line and ring.
The other version includes multiple pics showing various stages when I was putting it together. This version can be used with a seat harness.
I think the last version with the spreader bar is simple and an inexpensive way to determine if a sliding spreader bar is right for you. The seat harness version is not as practical, but I wanted to take a different approach and run the line through the bar to see what I could learn. It works fine but it limits you to a seat harness and is a bit more complex to set up. I like the factory Dynabar the best, but, if you are on a tight budget, there are inexpensive options such as these.
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windtzu1
Since 02 Aug 2012
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| Wed Jul 31, 13 6:40 am Re: which slider type? |
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| DavidT wrote: | so out of curiosity, what slider are most of you guys with the Dynabar system using? The Dyneema, Wave or Freeride Slider??
Definitely interested in trying one out |
David, I use the wave version. It's suppose to better for jumping (stays more stationary) than the Dyneema. That's at least what I was told when I purchased it. Others may disagree. The Freeride Slider is being discontinued - not smooth coming off the center position and the wave does the job of freeride remaining reasonably "locked" on center until it needs to slide. For me the solid bar is just one less thing to break over time.
The Dyneema rope is something that will eventually need replacement. Although this isn't an issue unto itself, it does mean I need to check on and maintain more components over the short run. When installed properly (using Lock-tite - my buddy didn't install his bar properly and nut fell off - "a not so good" on the water moment) the Wave bar is just more piece of gear I can rely on over the long haul.
My friend started with the Dyneema version and ended up with the Wave bar. He noticed a slight difference, but prefers the Wave bar. Either way it's a win-win.
I enjoy the benefits of the sliding bar and would never go back. Unless you're heavy into wakestyle, I see no advantage with the fixed hook. Along with all the other attributes, I also find that it's easier to body drag with, and there's less of a tendency for the harness to ride up on you using a waist harness - the hook moves up and down. And when I'm using board shorts (seat harness) it's the only way to go. Loving the board shorts harness with the Dynabar on my surfboard > I can keep a lower center of gravity when riding swells and waves, and the boardshorts offer the freedom of movement of the waist harness.
I also understand the Dynabar reduces, if not eliminates, the the chance of rib injuries. Hopefully I won't ever need to comment anything to the contrary. 
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