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jaksavage
Since 02 Dec 2009
216 Posts
hood river
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Sat Feb 11, 12 6:58 pm elbow no |
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Ice, rest, acupunture, ice.
Be patient. |
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DesertWinds

Since 01 May 2009
80 Posts
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Sat Feb 11, 12 8:39 pm |
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yoga, massage and don't over grip the bar... kite one handed and drag the other in the drink now and then |
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wylieflyote

Since 30 Jun 2006
1648 Posts
Puget Sound & Wa. Coast
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Sun Feb 12, 12 6:09 am |
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What does your elbow problem look like? My elbow bursa (sp?) sac is now gigantic swollen. My nurse wife says it's from the 54 hour drive to southern Mexico, leaning constantly on the arm rest. Or? A month in Brazil kiting?
I'd post a picture but it's hideous. Looks just like this from a google search:
I've been applying Voltarin Cream on it several times a day and it seems to been gradually going down. Voltarin is a topical NSAID not available in the US (yet). Great stuff. _________________ CGKA Member
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bluevwguy
Since 09 Jun 2011
5 Posts
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RayFinkle
Since 01 Feb 2012
10 Posts
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Mon Feb 13, 12 12:26 am |
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One thing that helps me is I just play with my balls.
You have to start slow because playing with your balls will work your forearms, wrists, and elbows more than you realize.
http://www.powerballs.com/
But seriously these crazy things were the key to a severe wrist tendon tear and compound fracture rehab after a sport bike accident. I still use them to keep up and have never had a kiter elbow problem. |
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jackZ
Since 13 Apr 2008
355 Posts
Devon Alberta ca.
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Mon Feb 13, 12 9:34 am |
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Great advice guys.
I'm 54 and got a whack on my elbow in August from a wave tossed surfboard. It's quite painful at times , like the whole arm aches once in a while. I used the Voltarin ( free sample in the mail here in frost back country Canada) Back on Maui again now and it's no diferent. At times it hurts and others it's ok. Doc gave me anti inflammatory. But those make me want to puke so I threw them out. Too many side effects, fukin garbage meds. Weird thing is it hurts just doing nothing, start to kite its no pain during the sesh ? Or during other use , only when at rest. So stay active I guess. Lol
Getting old sucks at times but the alternative is worse. !
Kite on old guys!
JackZ _________________ IKO water Instructor
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MarkWorth

Since 02 May 2011
149 Posts
Hood River
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Wed Feb 15, 12 8:23 am |
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15 years ago I had elbow pain that was extreme from pushing down on the boom to trim the board when windsurfing underpowered. The solution from Hood River orthopedic surgeon Dr. John Durkan, was to stretch and break an adhesion in the muscle. He showed me a stretch that solved the problem in 5 days and has kept the elbow working ever since.
I would strongly recommend a visit for any bone/tendon/muscle issues. John kites and understands the stresses involved. _________________ Have More Fun!
Mark
Gorge Kiteboard School
http://gorgekiteboardschool.com |
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beech

Since 21 Aug 2010
485 Posts
Longview, WA
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Wed Feb 15, 12 10:41 am |
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jackZ wrote: | Weird thing is it hurts just doing nothing, start to kite its no pain during the sesh ? Or during other use , only when at rest. So stay active I guess.
JackZ |
I don't have any good proof... just anecdote, but I swear when I exercise I'm getting some natural anti-inflammatory action somehow. I know for a fact when I have a congested nose from a cold, allergies etc, when I start working out the nose immediately clears up. Then it comes back some time after I'm done. But the inflammation in the nasal passages is reduced during and for some time after the workout.
Same goes for a slightly arthritic knee... it feels better when I work out regularly. _________________ Haole |
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waynepjh
Since 27 Jul 2008
212 Posts
jackson wy
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Wed Feb 15, 12 2:49 pm |
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just like markworth said STRETCH! I have seen many doctors for shoulder, pain back pain and elbow pain and the end result is to stretch! I have had major back issues and two shoulder dislocation with no surgery and stretching takes away the pain. Sometimes it take me going to a specialist that stretches me to get the best results. My shoulder hurt so bad I could not hold a coffe cup. 30 min of stretching and I was 100% I couldn't sleep for days due to sciatica pain and went to my specialist hour and half later 110%. So much of our pain has to do with alignment. like my shoulder for instance I am a whitewater guide and use them alot pushing oars. That excersise pulls my shoulder out of center causing impingement pain.
I kite over 200 days a year and used to get bad elbow pains. I learned two stretches that I do while driving that cured that. Try sticking your fingertips on the inside roof of your car " one hand of course" and slowly push your palm to the ceiling. repeat like 20 times switching sides. The other one is to stick your arm straight out and rotate your arm initiating with your hand as far as you can one way pausing at max rotation then rotate the other direction as far as you can. Do this one to fatigue! between these two excercises " if you can figure out my explanation" it has cured my pain. I hope this works for you cause being in pain all the time sucks! good luck! wayne |
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
854 Posts
Seattle
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Wed Feb 15, 12 4:07 pm |
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wylieflyote wrote: | What does your elbow problem look like? My elbow bursa (sp?) sac is now gigantic swollen. My nurse wife says it's from the 54 hour drive to southern Mexico, leaning constantly on the arm rest. Or? A month in Brazil kiting?
I'd post a picture but it's hideous. Looks just like this from a google search:
I've been applying Voltarin Cream on it several times a day and it seems to been gradually going down. Voltarin is a topical NSAID not available in the US (yet). Great stuff. |
You can get voltarin in the US but its prescription only. I got some last year for my knees. +1 good stuff. its like advil right where you need it and without running it through your digestive system. _________________ www.youtube.com/c/christianjohnsons |
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
854 Posts
Seattle
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Wed Feb 15, 12 4:10 pm |
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get new kites!
T2's are the pinnacle of bad bar pressure kites.
if you can't afford new kites get used kites or switch kites. anything you get will have better bar pressure then the T2's _________________ www.youtube.com/c/christianjohnsons |
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56casinoc030
Since 29 Jan 2012
3 Posts
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Wed Feb 15, 12 10:50 pm |
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Pete

Since 29 Oct 2007
843 Posts
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Thu Feb 16, 12 9:19 am |
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56casinoc030 wrote: | A lot and most of all favored how you really handled the issues I considered to be controversial. You happen to be always extremely kind to readers much like me and aid me in my existence. Thank you. |
That's awesome, especially considering how much you were involved in this discussion previously.
Hey, can you hook me up with like $1,000,000 free cash on your website so I can get my gamble on! Sweet!
This guy needs to be "banded". |
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kitezilla

Since 22 Jun 2006
453 Posts
gorge
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Fri Feb 17, 12 5:18 am |
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I have tinkered up the device, which is described in the Kiteforum thread:
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2374480&p=737485
And I totally agree with the statement below. Here is an invention, which could be used in conjunction with all the other good advice, stated on NWKite forum, to achieve a more fun-filled recovery period from certain injuries. It is a "crutch" but in a good sense. Lots of interesting issues related to this idea. I would like to see some of the very creative NW kiters, or better yet, a manufacturer, get involved with this concept.
We have 2 threads going on injuries right now, so I assume there are a number of kiters, in the NW alone, that could benefit from this... and with the "cold-water-muscle-pulling" kiting season just around the corner, that there will be more!
"My testing of the "below the bar" plus the "inside the bar" devices has been very encouraging... I am about to put up the "Mission Accomplished" sign.
I have used both the external to the bar bungeed system and the internal to the bar system in conjunction with the short "recoil leash" in conditions ranging from highly powered 7M to low wind 13M conditions, and the system shows "problem-solving" promise, for different reasons in each of these conditions. I keep making discoveries, and come back smiling, after each session.
This kind of device will be most applicable in its use as an aid to those kiters, who are recovering from a wrist, elbow or shoulder injury, but do not want to completely give up kiting. The device, when used properly and conservatively, will give relief to the injured joint or muscle, but still allow the injured kiter to enjoy getting out on the water. I have tested this hypothesis, with a sore shoulder, and was thrilled with the results.
I would recommend that the kiter, first, learn how to use the device, before he really needs the benefit of the device… not while he is in an injured state… just for safety reasons. The learning period is very short, and involves performing all the maneuvers that a kiter typically uses while "Mowing-the-Lawn". This is the level of kiting that an injured kiter should limit himself to, anyways. The kiter can, do heel-side and toe-side turns, jump, do air-jibes, down loops, and simple back rolls, but that should be all.
Note: Here is what I learned, the last time out in 7M wind: This type of spring loaded device may actually have a use by "expert" kiters, who want to boost even higher jumps…. this is still a hypothesis to be tested, but here is what happened to me. Yesterday in powered up 7M wind, I got up enough nerve to pop a good jump, and was surprised by the extra "pop" the device gave me. Then, I realized that I was loading up the bar with an extra 50 pounds, when going into the "pop"... It would be fun to see what Ruben Lenten would do with such a device, which was spring-loaded with twice the force of the one I am using. A hypothesis, that I would like to see tested.
Anyway, my recommendation to not just "aging weekend warriors", but to those who "throw-down", and sooner or later will experience wrist, shoulder or elbow injuries…Make one of these devices and learn how to use it before you really need it. You know that you are not going to want to stop kiting, even, when you are not 100% healthy.
Or better yet, encourage one of the kite manufacturers to produce this type of device.
Here is a suggestion, and a question for kite instructors.
SUGGESTION: Expand your teaching opportunities: Begin teaching the use of this device. First, teach yourself.
QUESTION: What repercussions will you suffer from the instructional organizations (IKO, PASA, etc)? Will your insurance be canceled, or your license canceled, or some restriction be placed on you? I would guess that, since this kind of instruction, would not be "by-the-book", that there could be some repercussions…. so, would the teaching of such techniques be prohibited, until a standard procedure protocol was created, standardized, and approved by the regulatory organization?
Much still to be discussed….
Anyway… so far, so good!"
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