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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
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Hood River
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Wed Feb 10, 10 1:33 pm |
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@moto: Remember dude, it isn't that the bar is more expensive, it's that the US dollar is worth less, thus it's smaller. New bars in 08 were $250, in 09 were $350, now in 2010 $500. Watch the dollar get smaller! BTW, Did I tell everyone I'll buy your unwanted gold? LOL.
@C Johnson: I hear ya dude. The Gorge is screwed on economic growth as far as big industry and other types of businesses that would be harmful to the scenic and environment of the area. But I think most of us wouldn't have it any other way. We all sacrifice various things to live here. Growth here happens different than any where else and some people like it, some people are bitter'd by it.
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strapless101
Since 17 Aug 2009
82 Posts
gorge
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Wed Feb 10, 10 4:48 pm |
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I wasn't complaining about friends and family or living in the gorge, I take advantage of my connections like everyone else here (and i do live in the gorge). the situation reminds of kayaking ten years ago, you do wonder how much goodwill gets burned up. Most people with f&f are only as loyal as their discount.
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strapless101
Since 17 Aug 2009
82 Posts
gorge
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Wed Feb 10, 10 5:01 pm |
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wasn't trying to get anyone all worked up. just some musings...
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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
Moto Mouth
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Wed Feb 10, 10 5:18 pm |
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Forrest wrote: | @moto: Remember dude, it isn't that the bar is more expensive, it's that the US dollar is worth less, thus it's smaller. New bars in 08 were $250, in 09 were $350, now in 2010 $500. Watch the dollar get smaller! BTW, Did I tell everyone I'll buy your unwanted gold? LOL.
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Forrest, I just can't foresee parting with 500 bones for a bar - unless that thing gives me a handjob while I'm riding it just isn't worth it to me - oh and by the way I read the materials on the bar - no mention of a handjob attachment.
Regarding the devaluation of the dollar. If the dollar has devalued so much - why is it that I can still go to the corner and get a $5 handjob from the local crack ho. With the devalueing of the dollar you would think crack would go up and hence the hand jobs would thus reflect the new price in crack. But it doesn't. Now you see why I can't part with $500 for a bar that doesn't give me a handjob when I ride. I can use that same money and get a hundred handjobs from a hundred different hoes. It just doens't add up
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
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Seattle
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mschulz

Since 29 May 2007
530 Posts
Reno, NV
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Wed Feb 10, 10 10:18 pm |
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C Johnson wrote: | its simple....
crack ho's are dumb and therefore are unaware of the current dollar value  |
I rather see it as supply and demand. Many more crack ho's out there than kite companies making hi tech bars.
Me personally, I am with spike, less complicated the better. But if you want the top shit all the time, go buy it. If you don't buy used.
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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Thu Feb 11, 10 10:57 am |
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LOL! Dude, I bet we could rig up some spectra and make a little handjob rig for your bar moto! Just make sure the quick release works for those really hard unexpected tugs!
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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Thu Feb 11, 10 10:58 am |
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No worries, wasn't really taking it personally just trying to explain things from my perspective.
strapless101 wrote: | wasn't trying to get anyone all worked up. just some musings... |
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
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Seattle
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Thu Feb 11, 10 11:36 am |
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how cool would it be if this bar really was called the "Comp OMG $$"
maybe we could get the guys over at slingy to start working on that
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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
2698 Posts
Still a gojo pimp!
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Thu Feb 11, 10 11:51 am |
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Forrest wrote: | LOL! Dude, I bet we could rig up some spectra and make a little handjob rig for your bar moto! Just make sure the quick release works for those really hard unexpected tugs! |
Yeah, would have to be a real quick release!!!
C Johnson may be onto something. The SS "OMG $$" bar - that is a very catchy name. It could be like - "Oh My God, this bar is so money" Maybe they could create a limited edition northwest model called the OMG $$ - that may be worth five hundred bones.
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Spike

Since 13 May 2007
1414 Posts
Alameda
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Thu Feb 11, 10 12:54 pm |
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Moto wrote: | quick release |
This term will never mean the same to me again...
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bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
1692 Posts
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Thu Feb 11, 10 2:19 pm Ya get what you pay for...my O. |
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It's been my experience that SS stuff is really bomb proof. I can't think of any kite made that is better with regard to quality, and use than SS. I've bought alot of kites, at retail, and I can tell you that the money spent on a SS is well spent.
I remember having an issue with a T3 and Shy was sitting on a bench visiting with a pro kiter, Len10, I wanted to convert my T3 to 1:1 ratio and didn't really have the confidence to do it. I asked him if he wouldn't mind helping. He jumps up and is like," sure, let's do it.." He made me feel right at ease and then launched me to to boot.
You don't see a lot of SS kite being returned for leaky one pump issues, or other quality control stuff. If you do get something you get a body on the phone, not from India, but Oregon who can help. If you email em they get back to you asap. Sure, you could save some money with another brand, but you're not going to beat the whole meal deal. Resale on SS is good too.
The kites come complete with a bar, pump, and ton's of support. Not to mention that they, SS, donates kites to Eric, HRCSD for the kiting MS Program.
It's all good here in the gorge, but Slingy just makes it a little bit better.
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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
forever labled as the
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Thu Feb 11, 10 3:13 pm |
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You all fail to realize that the new bar has 20% more bling. That bling costs money yo. R and D can't cost that much but I'm sure retooling and what nit isn't cheap.
They sure the he'll aren't spending the cash on graphic designers or focus groups to name their kites. The all new "octane" ummm why name a new product after one that went nowhere? What's next, the 2012 link?
Top ten new kite names for SS;
1. The tripple injector
2. The one pump chump
3. The tachometer
4. The posi-traction
5. The reubenanator ( which actually had a nice ring to it)
6. The gouger
7. The Thailand turbo
8. The "just bend over"
9. The stink fist
10. And probably the best name.. Introducing slinshots latest high tec kite for 2017 ...
the " buy me next spring for 40% less"
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Sella

Since 21 Apr 2007
1794 Posts
Doin' The Dalles
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Thu Feb 11, 10 3:14 pm |
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I paid $1800 for my first 2-line Wipika and Reel Bar back in 1999. Now that bar came with a disk brake, clutch, a hand crank and about 8 pounds of ball breaking craziness. State of the art for "self launching" in it's day.
Forrest is right....as the dollar goes further into the crapper due to crazy inflation caused by bailout money we really have no idea how to repay the only saving grace we can hope for is the growth of kiting keeping the price relatively the same for the next 10 years to come.
Quality products and safety development....from Slingy, Cabrinha, Naish plus online retailing stategies from Best keep the competition heated up. We need Epic, Wainman, Ozone, North, Liquid Force etc..etc to keep pushing it. It's basic econ 101 but what I laugh about is everyone on this forum is pretty much an addicted kite junkie and if there was only 1 kite company just what WOULD you pay to get your fix??? For what kiting gives me......if becoming a crack whore hand job specialist kept the quiver fresh......somebody get my dakine gloves fast.
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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
4330 Posts
Hood River
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Thu Feb 11, 10 3:17 pm |
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Sella wrote: | but what I laugh about is everyone on this forum is pretty much an addicted kite junkie and if there was only 1 kite company just what WOULD you pay to get your fix??? For what kiting gives me......if becoming a crack whore hand job specialist kept the quiver fresh......somebody get my dakine gloves fast. |
Word!
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C Johnson

Since 17 Apr 2009
854 Posts
Seattle
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Thu Feb 11, 10 4:19 pm |
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sounds like the price is being driven up by many reasons, not just one.
-inflation of the US dollar. not pumping your kite
-expensive rent in Hood River
-because they can
-because it will be 40% off next year
-tooling
-R&D
-because hand job crack ho's are too cheap
-because there isn't enough kiteboarders to share the cost
-other reason we haven't thought of yet
I have a prediction for the 2011 slingshot link 2. It will be made from titanium, have a welded chambered leading edge so no pumping is necessary. it will have a layer of kevlar bonded over the entire kite so that it actually is bullet proof and not just a figure of speech.
My prediction for how much this kite will cost. MSRP: $25,000 kite only or $45,000 with bar and Stainless steel cables.
of course with inflation that calculates out to only about $10,000 by today's US dollar value. so its still a pretty good deal when you consider what all you're getting. after all you gotta pay extra for bullet proof and bling. haha
one last thing on a slightly serious note. when it comes to bombproof construction of kites. no matter how bombproof it is supposed to be. when it comes to a kite vs a pile of rocks. the pile of rocks is always going to win. actually if you have an overbuilt heavy kite you may be hitting the pile of rocks more often because your kite falls out of the sky when the wind lulls.
I like light weight cheap fragile stuff if I didn't already make that obvious. haha
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shymac

Since 20 Jul 2005
919 Posts
Home Valley, Wa.
Bigfoot
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