Must you ride so close to my student

bleighty · Since 17 Apr 2006 86 Posts St. Petersburg, FL

I guess we are not the only area w/ these types of problems..

Big issue w/ us as well.. Few great places for instructors to teach.. always best with boat/jetski support.. Always some that do the right things.. and a couple select individuals that do questionable stuff.

With our area becoming more populated its becoming a serious issue.

Forum chatter goes round and round.. and sometimes it does help.. not always tho.

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

trevorsmith · Since 25 Apr 2005 501 Posts PDX Addicted

Tony · Since 28 Aug 2006 940 Posts Portland Opinionated

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Inept_Fun · Since 14 Apr 2005 1417 Posts Hood River XTreme Poster

Its nice to see that all you guys are ripping on someone who most likely doesn't even go on this forum, and who you obviously don't know. The sandbar IS his beach, and all the locals know and respect him. That is Mark the owner of the red kiteschool on the corner.

Change you additudes cause this isnt what this post was about in the first place.

pdxmonkeyboy · Tue Jul 03, 07 10:10 am

You know what Trevor? you suck jack ass, get out of my way."

Just remember one thing "I rule you suck."

Laughing

I think its time to put the spit on lock down!

Crying or Very sad

P.S. that one instructor guy is a serious dick. Time to hide some rotting fish in that guys car.

trevorsmith · Since 25 Apr 2005 501 Posts PDX Addicted

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

ok, this topic is really irritating to me, and i hate the people who come right next to shore to throw a simple raley or backroll, give me a break, if you want to come in and use the shallow water to progress, you should be working on F-16's, back mobes, s-bend to blind, raley to blind, flat-3, dangle handle pass, something that is actually is challenging to learn. Not some gay raley, or some gay unhooked jump cause you are too chicken sh** to do it out in the deep water for fear of having to swim and relaunch your kite. That IS LAME.

furthermore, i am not a professional instructor, but while i have been injured i have been teaching my brother and a friend to kite a bit. Now i personally think the sandbar is divided up into 1 beginner area on the northwest corner of the sandbar between the sandbar and the red buoy. The flatwater pool below that, and the mouth of the hood is all perfect flat water for people that want to ride there and show off. If you want to show off, go ride in the mouth of the Hood, there are tons more people with cameras, watching down at the marina beach anyway.

To all you nay sayers, that think teaching upwind on the northwest corner of the sandbar is not a good idea, well, you're just wrong. When i've been teaching a female friend of mine, i am pretty much holding on to the harness handle 100% of the time. I also make sure that we are far enough upwind so that a kite crash will not put anybody at risk that is sitting on the little sandbar jetty to the west of the pro pool. And if i'm holding onto the harness there is no way she is going to get dragged downwind in the flat water pool where people are throwing down.

RESPECT this division people. if you see somebody teaching give them some room. There is tons of it, and we've dedicated way more of the area around the sandbar to advanced riders. While i am teaching, since it is on a beater kite, i tell the person i'm teaching, look, if you bow tie your kite with them, it is their fault, the more advanced kiter should know they need to give beginners some room.

Clearly, the more advanced riders can see two people, one flying the kite and one holding on to the harness teaching WITHOUT a board. Obviously this should be a clear clear sign to give us some room. Just STAY AWAY from people learning.

I guess the bottom line is, if you want to come in and ride around people learning, you know the dangers and consequences, so if the person i'm teaching hits you with the kite, or bow ties with your kite, then it's your fault. Everyone that knows how to ride has had to learn and been at that stage before where they dont have total control of the kite; that is why i make sure and hold on to the harness of the person learning, so they dont go very far, but i can't 100% control where they fly the kite, or if they'll crash it.

Furthermore, I dont own a jetski, so i'm not taking people i teach up to wells island. I'm going to use the north western most point of the sandbar because i feel that should be the designated learning area. If you see me out there holding on to a harness and helping to relaunch a kite, is it soo much to ask, that you give me some room? Do you feel the need to throw down in the beginner area because you can't hang with the real riders down in the pro pool and out in the mouth of the Hood? That is what i think. There is plenty of room out in the river and it is much easier for more advanced riders to navigate and move around. I personally think kiting up to wells island is a piece of cake, it only takes me about 20 minutes and i can spend more time than that doing the downwinder back.

I'm just saying, share the river, dont be a prick, give people learning enough space there is plenty for all. If you want to throw down, go throw down w/ the boyz who ride the pro pool, and if they kick you out cause you suck, then go up to wells island and progress up there until you can come hang with the true shredders, we know who we are Wink

tory · Since 08 Apr 2007 14 Posts Hood River, OR

Right on Ian! Totally agree. Just drop it, you all were learning at some point or another.

And Adam, way to right a novel bud. haha Smile

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

hey, what can i say, i work at a computer all day, and can type pretty fast Very Happy

how is your head feeling? better i hope? did they give you a decent script for some pain meds Cool

btw- that is a pretty cute avatar you got, looks a bazzillion times better than holly's Laughing

Kodiak · Since 01 Aug 2005 1114 Posts Slidey

Magic, everyone is at there own level of progression. Just because you think a raley or backroll is lame, doesn't mean it isn't a difficult trick for that person. Everyone has been there at some point.

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

maybe you misinterpreted me, i didn't mean an attack on you or anybody else that is at that point learning, i just think it is kind of lame that people feel the need to come in and show off intermediate tricks they are learning in front of people trying to teach or where people are trying to teach.

Last year, i was at a point where i was crashing all the time, working on double back rolls, raley's, etc. I went up to wells island to progress because there was lots more room, less people, etc and it worked out really well for me.

forrest · Tue Jul 03, 07 10:30 am

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

There is only ONE owner of the sandbar, and that is....

THE DOGS

Sorry, couldn't resist. Wink

magicmaker · Since 29 Oct 2006 895 Posts da Hood Opinionated

i guess i should clarify, what i meant by a gay raley or gay unhooked jump.

gay raley == hooked in raley with no pop using the kite to get all your air.

gay unhooked jump == just jumping unhooked and not throwing anything. simply dangling and holding on the for the ride.

I just dont think there is any reason anybody should be in next to the shore learning how to do these tricks in flat water where people are trying to teach and also where it is dangerous for the person progressing with the new tricks. I just feel like these are moves that can easily be learned out in the channel or up at wells island. That's all, sorry for coming off edgy and agressive.

phil - you're right, the dogs own the beach, lmao

goddamned, i can't wait for work to be over today, i'm off until next monday so sorry for being a little ansy on the forum this morning.

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth