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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Dec 03, 19 1:28 pm    Viento Sensor Back On-Line | 
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				Whoop whoop!
 
 
No more drive by required.
 
 
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				tkaraszewski
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Dec 04, 19 6:40 pm     | 
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				| I’m thinking about getting a dry suit. How many days am I really going to get to use it, though?
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				McLovin
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Dec 04, 19 8:22 pm    OT - DRYsuit | 
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				tkaraszewski ---> . Do it!!!
 
 
I just got mine - they have come a long way since my old BARE Polar Heat...  
 
Others will have much more experience and suggestions to be sure -
 
 
Go see Dave @windance or your favorite shop in town - I like the OR suits for the around the neck T-zip - hard to say how much you will use it but life is short?  Why not get all the toys...  
 
 
You will have new options for FUN times like getting out at Rooster in DEC like I did for the 1st time last Monday - felt like a nice October Day even spent a few minutes on the beach taking in the view totally warm and dry after packing up.  
 
 
*Pro TIP: bring a dry hat and gloves to switch on land for comfort mode* 
 
 
Remember spring runoff keeps the water very chilly well into MAY - when do you want to start your season - ?
 
 
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Wed Dec 04, 19 8:58 pm     | 
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				3.5 hours Viento Foil butter 7m wind. Ocean Rodeo Soul dry suit with integrated socks added by Jerry of Dry suit repair express in Beaverton. One piece polypro thermal, wool socks, 4mm hood, NRS 3mm kayak gloves. 37 deg air 47 deg water. Toasty warm and dry. I came in because the light was fading. 
 
 
My season is now endless.
 
 
Get good gloves, neo hood and goretex dry suit. Highly rec integrated socks or have Jerry add them. Wool or poly pro thermal underwear keeps you warm. The suit keeps you dry. As in fall in as much as you want dry. The OR Soul is a nice suit. I wish it came with goretex socks, but they can be added for about $150. Several of us had them added. You need to wear booties over the goretex socks. Do not walk around in just the sock as you will put holes in them. I wear 7mm O’Neill Heat booties over socks. I went up two sizes and they slide right on-easy. I tried the Glacier Gloves but not warm enough for me—for most folks they are though. I’m a string bean. I use NRS rescue gloves. Can’t recall name. They are lime green. Very warm with good dexterity. 
 
 
I dress with enough polypro with the assumption I will one day have to swim. The drysuit does not keep you warm; only dry. Dress as if you will be sitting on the Shooting Star Lift on a windy cold day. You will be a toasty kiter. Why goretex?  You want the water vapor from body to escape to keep thermal wear dry.
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				jayala
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 30 Apr 2013 
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				 Thu Dec 05, 19 8:48 am    Drysuit | 
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				| Does anyone wear a wetsuit under the drysuit? What are pros and cons vs polypro layers?
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				user124
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 02 Aug 2012 
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				 Thu Dec 05, 19 9:58 am    drysuits | 
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				Just a counterpoint to the drysuit enthusiasm. I've had an Ocean Rodeo dry suit for a few years and I honestly don't use it much.  I applaud the stoke, but there aren't that many people that get out on the water here in the winter at least relative to the warmer months.  The challenges are 1) it's still cold, and hard to get motivated 2) more dangerous 3) harder to find buddies to kite with this time of year (and definitely don't want to go solo because of no 2).  
 
 
But mainly I just find it's not worth the trouble as long as there is good snow on the mountain and I can get down to Baja during winter to get my fix.
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Thu Dec 05, 19 4:56 pm     | 
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				At Viento today:
 
 
Eric 
 
Walter
 
JohnB
 
Todd
 
Tom
 
Unknown Windfoiler
 
Unknown Kitefoiler
 
Mitch
 
Steve
 
Tyler
 
 
At Viento Yesterday:
 
 
Eric
 
Walter
 
Mitch
 
Tom
 
 
At Rock Creek a few days ago
 
 
Eric
 
Walter
 
Pete
 
Rob
 
Larry
 
Unknown Kitefoiler
 
Unknown Kitefoiler
 
Unknown Kiter
 
Unknown Kiter
 
 
At Viento ThanksGiv day
 
 
Eric
 
Dave
 
Unknown Windfoiler
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				user124
			
			 
			
				  
				Since 02 Aug 2012 
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				| OK Eric - you've got me convinced.  I need to dust off the old drysuit and head out to Viento!
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Thu Dec 05, 19 8:59 pm     | 
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				| Indeed!  Friday looks good at Viento.  I hope to be there at 11:15 ish after work should be several foilers there if windy.
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				bigjohn
			
			 
			
				 
				Since 13 Mar 2012 
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				 Fri Dec 06, 19 1:56 am    Re: Drysuit | 
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				 	  | jayala wrote: | 	 		  | Does anyone wear a wetsuit under the drysuit? What are pros and cons vs polypro layers? | 	  
 
 
Sometimes.  The challenge with a wetsuit is it makes you sweat.  Your dry suit turns into an inner wet suit.
 
 
I prefer to wear a material that provides a layer of separation against the cold and additionally keeps my sweat away from my skin. 
 
 
But, when it's cold enough a wetsuit makes a great under alignment as it provides a continuous layer of warmth to my body.  I just need to empty out all my sweat when I am done with my session.
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				Gman
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Fri Dec 06, 19 2:37 pm     | 
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				think the foiling and drysuit makes the gorge fun year round - the ocean always has potential to kick out a winter session if you are on it - no drysuit required or recommended in the surf
 
 
if you invest in the drysuit - might as well be comfortable and wear polypro, fleece or whatever you layer with skiing (all about duel use...)  if its a leaky drysuit, a wetsuit might not be a bad idea
 
 
was surprised last weekend - went cross country skiing/bird hunting in bend - temp maxed at 20 - the river wave crew was at it with just surf suits 
 
 
  
 
 
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Fri Dec 06, 19 2:37 pm     | 
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				12/6/19
 
 
At Viento today:
 
 
Eric
 
John
 
Todd
 
Dave
 
Andy
 
Tyler 
 
Mitch
 
Tom
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Dec 10, 19 6:02 am     | 
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				Sunday Rock 12/8 Creek:
 
Eric
 
Pete
 
Tom
 
Bill
 
Tyler
 
Mitch
 
Unknown kiter
 
 
Viento 12/9 Monday:
 
Eric
 
Andy
 
 
Today:  I work until 11 today so may miss the Viento window.  A few are planing a 9 am session
 
 
And yes, having a flexible work schedule is a big plus.  So, there is a winter crew that foils all year round.  I am getting 2-4 days per week in.  With the right gear I find it really fun.  For me the right gear is a dry suit with polypro under.  I was too warm yesterday with an air temp of 42, and just right the other day with an air temp of 34.  I typically stay out for 2-3 hours, sometimes longer.  It's all about layering under the dry suit for me.  East winds can be amazingly steady.  Loving it!  Not for everyone, but for me, not going to Baja no longer means not foiling.
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Mon Dec 16, 19 7:55 pm     | 
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				Viento was butter 8m foiling today, and should be butter 6 m Tuesday.  Pretty sure a crew will be there.  I'm there at 11:15 ish.  Four of us today.
 
 
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				eric
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Dec 17, 19 7:45 pm     | 
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				34-35 degree air, 8m foil wind all day at Viento
 
 
Tyler
 
Walter
 
Andy
 
Mike
 
Mitch
 
Dave
 
Eric
 
Steve
 
Tom
 
Todd
 
 
Went to 5mm Xcell lobster mitts.  Toasty dry hands.  The Xcell wrist seals...seal!
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				Justsmile
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Tue Dec 17, 19 8:39 pm     | 
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				Who cares !!
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