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				Pepi
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Fri Sep 06, 19 1:37 pm    Event Site is still in pump/dry mode only | 
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				Just a reminder that the Event Site is still in Pump/Dry mode until the Port officially designates a re-opening date.
 
 
Current view point from the Port's insurance/liability standpoint is that the Event Site still has too many multisport/spectator users for safely re-introducing kiteboarding launch/land into the area.
 
If the amount of users at the event site continues through the month, the re-opening of kite launch and land may be delayed until the end of the month.
 
 
And, yes, the Event Site is still a paid parking lot, so remember to keep your passes in your car and if you don't have a pass, then remember to pay for a daily pass when parked.
 
 
The growing amount of commercial businesses and it's growing population of users and guests seems to continue to expand and push more demand on these waterfront locations and parking venues.
 
With more commercial businesses to be expected along the waterfront, these will likely be standard growth scenarios for us to have to get used to. _________________ Pure Stoke Sports 
 
Hood River, OR
 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hood-River-OR/2nd-Wind-Sports/35891485558?ref=mf
 
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				Pepi
			
			 
			
				  
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				shred_da_gorge
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Sep 24, 19 2:10 pm     | 
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				It's a good point, thanks Pepi - people I speak with are unsure (I know signs abound), or just plain disagree. If I'm standing there and a kiter comes in to land then my better judgment tells me it's safer to land them then tell them to go to the sandbar (which may not even have someone to catch). I'm not entirely comfortable with doing this (given that it's breaking port rules), but again it's typically a judgment call I feel I'm experienced enough to make - am open to feedback. (And I confess I've launched a few folks too... sorry).
 
 
Really the main thing is that the wind has a lot of south in it this time of year which makes the sandbar wind a better choice anyway! | 
			 
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				Jonpnw
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Tue Sep 24, 19 2:41 pm    Confusing Signage | 
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				The sign clearly states the grass is closed until September 15th . So if your visiting and see that and know no better you launch into sketch winds . Go to the sandbar , it’s better and the exercise is good for you . _________________ Slingshot | Ride Engine |Try before you buy | PM me 
 
 
 
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				ldhr
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Sep 24, 19 4:03 pm     | 
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				Everyone knows it's supposed to be closed.
 
Everyone knows they are breaking the rules.
 
They thinks it's stupid that we can't launch from the grass ad there's no authority to stop them.
 
I talked to a couple of them (locals) - they know. | 
			 
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				Singlemalt
			
			 
			
				 
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				But there’s money for someone to write parking tickets. _________________ Pull the cork. | 
			 
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				moondog
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Tue Sep 24, 19 4:53 pm     | 
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				There were exactly 0 windsurfers at the ES today Sept. 24th. There were 25-30 kiters. There were 15 spectators. What a joke that we can't use the grass for launching and landing. I called Daryl twice to discuss the situation and she has never returned my call. _________________ moondog | 
			 
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				Pepi
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 8:37 am     | 
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				Reminder that I am just a messenger nowadays.
 
 
Personally, I prefer to pump and launch at the Event Site, but I am not a fan when there are others launching who have no idea about the wind vortex, wind shadow or have no idea how to manage difficult launch scenarios.
 
Yesterday there were people repeatedly trying to launch, drop their kites in the wind shadow and then struggle trying to relaunch the kite in the water dead downwind blocking the entire launch.
 
Add to this scenario the random extra person who watches all this and then does the exact same thing, but without any wetsuit.
 
 
The bigger picture here is that if (or the next time) a person gets hurt as a result of kiteboarding and the Port of HR's insurance company is forced to settle (or loses) a wrongful injury claim, then the entire Port of HR waterfront will have to discontinue allowing kiteboard access.
 
 
It's never a full on win-win, but it keeps the launch available to re-open each year.
 
 
As you all know, we (the former CGKA) have handed the reigns of this responsibility over to the CGWWA.  
 
So, as such, my original post was just made to ensure that everyone has as best a chance as possible to know what the current  Port of  HR rules were.
 
 
Yesterday, the wind sucked badly via the Event Site, and I launched at the Spit. _________________ Pure Stoke Sports 
 
Hood River, OR
 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hood-River-OR/2nd-Wind-Sports/35891485558?ref=mf
 
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				wannabekiter
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 9:49 am    wind | 
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				Yeah saw people launching off the grass Saturday. What too lazy to walk out to the spit?
 
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				wylieflyote
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 11:10 am    Re: wind | 
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				 	  | wannabekiter wrote: | 	 		  Yeah saw people launching off the grass Saturday. What too lazy to walk out to the spit?
 
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If you are foiling the route to a deeper lane of water is much much easier from the grass. I'm essentially carrying the entire length of the sandbar to get to a cleaner launch. My dear carbon wing shows some punishment. _________________ CGKA Member
 
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				wannabekiter
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 11:31 am    Sorry | 
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				The rules are the rules. Sorry its hard to carry your foil.
 
Its in everybody's best interest to not piss off the port.
 
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 12:11 pm    Re: wind | 
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				 	  | wylieflyote wrote: | 	 		   	  | wannabekiter wrote: | 	 		  Yeah saw people launching off the grass Saturday. What too lazy to walk out to the spit?
 
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If you are foiling the route to a deeper lane of water is much much easier from the grass. I'm essentially carrying the entire length of the sandbar to get to a cleaner launch. My dear carbon wing shows some punishment. | 	  
 
 
How far will you have to carry it if the site gets closed?   _________________ curiously observing blurry patterns while slightly distracted | 
			 
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				wylieflyote
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 1:39 pm    Re: Sorry | 
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				 	  | wannabekiter wrote: | 	 		  The rules are the rules. Sorry its hard to carry your foil.
 
Its in everybody's best interest to not piss off the port.
 
Or there insurance company. | 	  
 
 
You're correct. Sorry for my snarky-ness. I lurk from out of town. It's all carbon and weightless Moses anyway. _________________ CGKA Member
 
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				Clyde S. Dale
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 4:16 pm    Re: Sorry | 
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				 	  | wylieflyote wrote: | 	 		   	  | wannabekiter wrote: | 	 		  The rules are the rules. Sorry its hard to carry your foil.
 
Its in everybody's best interest to not piss off the port.
 
Or there insurance company. | 	  
 
 
You're correct. Sorry for my snarky-ness. I lurk from out of town. It's all carbon and weightless Moses anyway. | 	  
 
Think about the workout you get, people pay money for that ! And foilers need a workout, that smooth butter riding is effortless !   | 
			 
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				Pepi
			
			 
			
				  
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				 Wed Sep 25, 19 5:51 pm    Re: Sorry | 
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				[/quote]
 
Think about the workout you get, people pay money for that ! And foilers need a workout, that smooth butter riding is effortless !  [/quote]
 
 
Pretty accurate.  
 
First trip to the coast this summer on my surfboard proved that foiling had turned me into a lazy foiling puss.  Got totally worked until I remembered that I had to actually work for the waves, ride the kite powered and bury the rail to get where I needed. _________________ Pure Stoke Sports 
 
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hood-River-OR/2nd-Wind-Sports/35891485558?ref=mf
 
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				Pepi
			
			 
			
				  
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				tgautier
			
			 
			
				 
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				 Sat Sep 28, 19 4:10 pm     | 
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				 	  | Pepi wrote: | 	 		  | Reminder that I am just a messenger nowadays. | 	  
 
 
Yes - good reminder  
 
 
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The bigger picture here is that if (or the next time) a person gets hurt as a result of kiteboarding and the Port of HR's insurance company is forced to settle (or loses) a wrongful injury claim, then the entire Port of HR waterfront will have to discontinue allowing kiteboard access.
 
 
It's never a full on win-win, but it keeps the launch available to re-open each year.
 
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Makes sense - good to know.  It still doesn't explain why there is a change in the times this year.  My question is - did someone at the port re-evaluate the situation and come to a different conclusion than had been reached in prior years? Did something about the insurance situation change?  Something is different...wondering what it is.
 
 
I'm not even assuming you know the answer to this - just curious at this point. | 
			 
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