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skideeppow
Since 26 Aug 2011
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 Wed Sep 07, 16 1:31 pm |
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| Trent wrote: | | Then you should say it. Clearly they don't know how dangerous it is. Educate. |
I thought of it, but i am not a local and i figured someone who lived there would have said something if it was appropriate.
Just thought it would be out of line saying something. |
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bigjohn
Since 13 Mar 2012
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| Wed Sep 07, 16 2:39 pm |
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Sometimes it's not so much what you are saying, but rather how you say it.
for example, it is more dangerous to run on the beach than to walk on the beach. Does this mean that running on the beach is dangerous? NO!!! However some might use your statement as an opportunity to argue such.
Another way to say the same thing is that it is safer to walk on the beach than to run on the beach. Neither action is dangerous per se however you are less likely to trip and fall while walking than while running. The difference is communicating the relative risk of walking vs running.
Perhaps it is safer to sit further back from the kite launch zone. It doesn't mean that it is unsafe to sit in the launch zone. Rather, it is safer for all parties involved if everyone makes an effort to be aware of others around (kiters, windsurfers, beach sitters).
My point is that if as individuals we are going to take on the role of ambassadors of the beach for our beloved sport we need to do so in a thoughtful and professional manner.
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jaksavage
Since 02 Dec 2009
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| Wed Sep 07, 16 3:45 pm BigJohn |
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What he said.
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Loneski
Since 18 Dec 2010
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| Thu Sep 08, 16 4:13 pm Common sense? |
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I have only kited the sandbar twice this year because of the crowds. First time going out through the chaos two kiters tangled their kites and I barely squeezed through. Second time a guy on a skim board rode back and forth the length of the sandbar only a few feet from shore slashing every little 6 inch wave that broke. Constantly blocking people going in and out.
I'm fine with the crowds and confusion going in and out. At times it is extremely exciting. I think the issue most people are upset about is the skim board type rider that feel they don't have to play by the rules. |
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HRnico
Since 22 Mar 2008
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| Thu Sep 08, 16 8:54 pm |
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Head straight into his path he'll give way, and bitch about it. Oh well. Maybe a kite bump as well. 
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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| Fri Sep 09, 16 7:53 am |
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Sandbar, Meadows, Post Canyon, Double Mountain .....
Nobody goes there anymore it's too crowded. |
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1surfer
Since 20 Apr 2010
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| Fri Sep 09, 16 10:57 am Dig Me Zone |
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its the same everywhere. We call it the DMZ: "Dig Me Zone".
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cgka
Since 18 Jul 2006
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| Sat Sep 10, 16 11:53 am Re: Dig Me Zone |
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Edited to better represent the CGKA. Gotta remember to keep the inner monologues inside our head. 
Last edited by cgka on Sun Sep 11, 16 4:37 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Moonbase
Since 03 Aug 2015
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| Sat Sep 10, 16 6:22 pm |
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| Well this is a nicely compiled list of kiters who can't really boost or do any tricks. |
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Clyde S. Dale
Since 23 Jul 2016
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| Sun Sep 11, 16 5:06 am |
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| Moonbase wrote: | | Well this is a nicely compiled list of kiters who can't really boost or do any tricks. |
Hold on,be patient ,the list is still growing lol  |
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Occupied Columbia
Since 12 Nov 2011
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| Mon Sep 12, 16 7:58 am HAVE FUN! |
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Not calling anyone out personally, just quelling a negative attitude towards extreme riders. I think people forget this is an extreme sport.
You can drive a racecar around the track at 55mph. But if you do people will be ripping past you because they didn't get into racing to putt around the track.
If people are doing something different than you, and it's not blatantly unsafe, try and support it and share the stoke.
DMZ? Really? I like to watch people better than me throwing down. Don't be an old fuddy duddy. Stay young or at least young at heart. |
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bigjohn
Since 13 Mar 2012
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| Tue Sep 13, 16 9:11 am Re: HAVE FUN! |
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| Occupied Columbia wrote: | | ... and it's not blatantly unsafe... |
Problem usually lies in the definition of blatantly unsafe...
We've all seen the guys boosting 40+ feet directly through the launch zone. It's really cool to watch guys perform really difficult or big tricks. It's a real motivator to improve our own skills.
In my opinion the problem lies in choices that some people make that endanger others.
It's not that the person performing the trick doesn't have the skills to perform the trick in control, rather the location they choose to perform the trick may be in a location around others without such control.
If you are boosting in the launch zone you are likely blocking a beginner from safe travel to and from a launch. Just because it appears to be clear when you take off for your trick doesn't mean you aren't still blocking them access. As an expert kiter you have the skills to ride upwind quickly, and then boost across the zone down wind completely blocking access to beginners. If it's clear it's probably because you pushed them out on your last jump and they still can't safely access the landing zone.
Also, if boosting around other kiters, the assumption is they have the control to keep their kites stable... An assumption that is probably true for all but beginners. Problem is, how do you know which kiters are beginners?
I don't mind guys boosting around me (assuming they prove they have the control to land safely next to me... every landing...). In fact, I love looking upwind at a kiter who's board is higher than my kite... I will give them a fist pump and a hoot of appreciation of their skill... But I do mind kiters boosting around beginners and the launch zone.
If your trick is really cool it will be noticed and appreciated even more if being performed in a manner that provides no danger to others around you.
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wannabekiter
Since 14 May 2015
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| Wed Sep 14, 16 11:45 am In the way |
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| Well said bigjohn |
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Ho-Toe
Since 30 Apr 2014
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| Wed Sep 14, 16 12:18 pm 1st world problems |
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And meanwhile...
There were three guys, plus the landlord of course, out at my anonymous local beachbreak yesterday. Pretty much like always. It gets lonely sometimes. I'd post photos of nobody doing nothing on facebook/instagram/crapchat, but nobody would like them.
Perhaps you folks have soiled your nest by over-hyping it? Enjoy.
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bigjohn
Since 13 Mar 2012
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| Wed Sep 14, 16 1:17 pm Re: HAVE FUN! |
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| Occupied Columbia wrote: | | I think people forget this is an extreme sport. |
Okay... I'm probably being a bit over sensitive here... But I do NOT consider kiting to be an extreme sport. Granted there are some kiters that perform extreme maneuvers... But, I would consider just about any other sport out there to be more extreme than kiting.
Consider this, nearly all our activity is over water, thus when we wipe out we are on water. While we have the ability to jump very high, we float down softly and usually land like a butterfly. How many injuries occur in kiteboarding? I would guess the ratio of injuries in kitesurfing to nearly any other sport is quite low. Perhaps the occasional bruised ribs from our harnesses might be the most common injury.
Yes I understand that learning to kitesurf may be extreme as there is a learning curve before you can safely kitesurf... but, after learning safe kiting practices, it's really not all that extreme.
I would consider all the following sports to be more extreme than kitesurfing:
biking, basketball, football, golf, skateboarding, vollyball, gymnastics, motorcycle racing, car racing, insert your favorite sport here... simply because the odds of injury are probably more likly than in kiting.
Sorry to burst some bubbles out there, but we are not really all that extreme....
On the bright side, it's much more difficult to ban launch sites to sports that are not all that extreme, so we should have a good chance of keeping ours
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user124
Since 02 Aug 2012
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| Wed Sep 14, 16 1:34 pm |
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OK I admit kiteboarding can be done in a way that makes it less extreme than other sports. But did you just say GOLF is more extreme than kiteboarding   |
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bigjohn
Since 13 Mar 2012
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| Wed Sep 14, 16 1:41 pm |
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| user124 wrote: | | OK I admit kiteboarding can be done in a way that makes it less extreme than other sports. But did you just say GOLF is more extreme than kiteboarding |
Yup. Last time I played golf I could hardly walk my back hurt so much.
I kite nearly every day and never sustain injuries (aside from perhaps rivernose)...
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Also with golf you have to consider that other golfers are shooting golf balls all around you, You have old people who probably aren't legal to drive on the road yet are legal to drive a golf cart (while drinking), Young kids driving golf carts in aggressive manners.... Angry golfers throwing clubs into trees (did I already mention alcohol), rattlesnakes (or alligators depending upon where you are) to watch out for when searching for your ball (which you can't leave because you already lost all your spares), and even though the odds might be low, the backswing of a 5 iron during a lighting storm can't be at all very safe...
Golfing - Now that's an extreme sport 
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