Jones Beach Etiquette

OG · Since 07 Jun 2011 537 Posts Addicted

There aren't many times that jones has issues with people, traffic, trainers, etc. Couple of things that would be cool for us all to do though.

1. Leave the western most part of the beach to the FNG's and folks getting lessons. Before Nate started giving lessons at that part of the beach, everyone formed up a lot closer to the paved area. Its common etiquette for FNG's to start further upwind of everyone, but we all eff that up by starting up there as well.

2. Bring more chicks in bikini tops to watch how cool we all are

3. Share whats in your cooler.

4. Give kerpella a land

Kerpella, its unfortunately common in kiting for people to look past you when they dont know you. For you, Id simply advise chatting a few people up, saying you're an FNG, and ask for the lay of the land and how people do things. Also, if you have a problem on the beach, like not getting a land, ask some people WTF. I think the reason you are getting some 'tough love' right now is because you are new and because you didn't ask some people what you have to do differently while on the beach.

If forecast is good, Ill be there on weds with cooler full and chick in a bikini

Johnb · Since 02 Aug 2010 494 Posts Obsessed

Being someone that frequents Jones often I felt I would chime in here. I have been going there for 3 years and have always been offered landings and got launched when I asked. I in turn do the same and offer advice for anyone that is asking. In fact I often get propositioned for an unsolicited landings by dirty landing hookers when I come in to change boards out. I usually just shake my head and say no thanks just changing boards.

Now I cannot comment on what happened that day as I was not there however I will comment on what I see as the original poster miss-representing her kiting skills in what appears to be an attempt to prove what she has to say is valid.

Going to the cost this weekend? Really? You just finished a jetski assisted lesson/session yesterday in the mellowest of wind and flattest of water. You are not yet competent enough to be out solo on the river let alone in the ocean. I am not knocking your progress I am just stating your skill level at your last session. So you might be misleading people with your claim that you are skilled enough for a coast session.

You really do not have enough experience or time on the water to be ranting about a one-time occurrence at jones. “Careless Kooks”, you are far far from being out the kook classification; in fact you haven’t been on the water enough to show your full kook potential. I will not say you are a careless kook as I have not watched you much, however not being able to ride up wind, self launch/land or really be able to skillfully maneuver puts you smack in the middle of kook land. Heck I don’t even consider you a “kiter” yet, rather still in the lessons/learning stage. Those in glass houses shouldn’t……. well you know the rest.

I don’t mean to be rude or an asshole but you really need to check your ego or whatever it is you have that prompted you to post about this “incident”. You have lots and lots of learning to do before you start criticizing other people let along ranting.

Oh and welcome to NWkite…awesome first post I hope the next post is better.

John

abkite · Since 25 Jun 2011 27 Posts

I haven't been to Jones in a couple of years but if I remember right if someone is in your way there is a ton of beach to go up/down wind of them. As you progress you'll be surprised by what situation you can kite around. I still would rather skip the busy event site days just because it's amazing how people can weave around each other, something I'm not a fan of doing.

Even if you can't self land you should be able to put your kite at the edge of the wind window and just let it be until someone can grab it. Some times people truly just don't see.

And thanks for the forum drama everyone, I haven't experienced that since I last ventured onto a parenting forum.

Sasquatch · Since 09 Mar 2005 2062 Posts PNW Bigfoot

Sasquatch · Since 09 Mar 2005 2062 Posts PNW Bigfoot

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Nice slam dude and welcoming her to the forum.

Land kiters. . . yet another user group wanting and competing with kiteboarders for access to the shoreline. Perhaps smackdown '14 they can be incorporated?

Kerpella: JohnB made a great point about trainer kiters being clueless to kiteboarders shoreline access needs as those people are often the newest of the new and have yet to be instructed by kiteboarders as to the needs and wants of newbie kiteboarders learning. Often times these people are "wind orphans" or "wind windows" who have been left on the beach to watch kiters on the water and dream and screw around with a trainer kite with little to no instruction.

This is why I asked if you went up to them to explain how their presence on the shoreline was impeding your newbie kite session.

barfly · Since 31 Mar 2005 1210 Posts Seaside BRACKISH

Sella · Tue Aug 05, 14 9:29 pm

Barfly.....that picture......holy shit somebody took a beatdown! Ouch.

quenyaistar · Since 21 Oct 2011 416 Posts Cougar, WA Obsessed

kochease · Since 03 Jul 2008 760 Posts In Ft. Stevens, OR Opinionated

Since it has been brought up I will throw in my 2 cents:

Jones is big, there is no need to ride clear up to shore in the teaching area Seriously!! You have people taking off, coming in, and teaching in the shallow area cove so why do people think its okay and SAFE to ride clear up to shore dodging kites?!?!? When you get within a 100ft turn around and go back out!

Tons of beach upwind and downwind, USE IT!! stop hovering in the cove. I can't count how many times people have nearly tomahawked me or literally RAN OVER ME trying to get those last few feet. Screw that Evil or Very Mad

If Jones is crowded try body dragging out with your board and then take off.

Before I started teaching in that cove, everyone rode from the parking lot. Maybe its time people start using more the middle of the beach and less of the west end where accidents are most likely to happen with the number of beginners in that area. The cove is not the only area to take off from, you have 3/4 OF A MILE OF WIDE OPEN BEACH TO PICK FROM. Try launching and taking off further down and make it a safer place for everyone.
Food for thought....................

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

nickczar · Since 17 Dec 2007 5 Posts Kook

FNG's don't hit the dodges with your head! all the others are ok...

kochease · Since 03 Jul 2008 760 Posts In Ft. Stevens, OR Opinionated

Kerpella · Since 01 Aug 2014 58 Posts

Hey guys! I appreciate everyone's comments and support! OG, you're hilarious. Hope to see you out there even though I'm apparently not a kiter yet and I'm being discouraged from trying to learn what people have to suggest. For the record, never said I wasn't a kook, actually, I was referring to myself as one, but I'll be sure to make a mental note of how people think that came from an ego I was unaware of having. Not trying to come off as a jerk guys! I'm just thankful for the group of friends I have out on the water that are supportive of one another, getting started and otherwise that are amazing and all the people on this forum with great, positive feedback! Wasn't looking to offend or hurt anyone, rather make a simple suggestion how possibly we could keep everyone safe. Guess I'm not competent enough though in my observations with trying to prevent accidents so, I'm just going to gracefully bow out and let whatever happens, happen!

See around in other posts! Smile

bigjohn · Since 13 Mar 2012 663 Posts Addicted

Kerpella,

Personally I enjoyed your post. I understand why you were slammed a bit however I think your post had merit. We all need to stay safe within our own personal skill level. You ended up in a position that was outside your comfort zone, and this forum is an excellent tool to gain advice regarding how/where to improve your skills such that you overcome these limitations.

LDHR provided excellent advice. Learn how to self land.

Upon learning to self land a kite you will have graduated to a new world of independence making you a much safer kiter as you will always have backup options.

There are multiple methods for self landing, however I will mention one that is worth practicing at Jones Beach or the Coast.

Disclaimers!!!

This is not a high wind technique

Okay.... Now for the technique:

opposite

right

left

My recommendation is to practice steps 1-3 at the beach over and over until you are confident you can self land on your own.

pollywog · Since 07 Aug 2009 289 Posts Obsessed

Justsmile · Since 20 Jul 2009 1523 Posts Not Portland XTreme Poster

Maybe everyone should just stop going to jones like it used to be. Have not been there this year to see what everyone is whining about. This seems to be an issue at every spot as it becomes more popular. That place is huge. Why the hell is everyone on top of each other. Cut the cord and take the tatas out if your mouth and venture around. Go way up wind, down wind or to nuclear alley. No reason at a to crowd everyone !!

quenyaistar · Since 21 Oct 2011 416 Posts Cougar, WA Obsessed

It is no fun showing off if nobody can see you showing off, Duhh!