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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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Fri Oct 09, 15 9:54 am |
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zipperline wrote: | I have been using the Ride Engine hex harness for a few months. Spectra line attached to chicken loop. |
Can you post a picture?
I have the Engine harness with rope and I'm looking for a better way to hook my Chicken loop to the rope......
Not crazy about undoing my quick release every time I need to launch and land.
Also worried the rope will cut through the plastic on the Chicken Loop.
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chavannes
Since 14 Oct 2015
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Wed Oct 14, 15 9:22 pm |
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This is the best solution. We have been using the Dynabar Sliding spreader bar for years and love it. The Ride Engine harness is super slick, but needs a hook. So its easy, just get one of these, they are sold out right now, but looks like they will be shipping soon. Almost everyone is adapting these to the Ride Engine harness
Get them here: http://321kiteboarding.com/collections/dynabar/products/dynabar-sliding-spreader-bar-hook
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Mr.Nacho

Since 16 Jul 2011
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TheHood
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Tue Dec 15, 15 4:01 pm Ride Engine Harness |
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ldhr wrote: | zipperline wrote: | I have been using the Ride Engine hex harness for a few months. Spectra line attached to chicken loop. |
Can you post a picture?
I have the Engine harness with rope and I'm looking for a better way to hook my Chicken loop to the rope......
Not crazy about undoing my quick release every time I need to launch and land.
Also worried the rope will cut through the plastic on the Chicken Loop. |
Try one of these....
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/ronstan--snap-shackles--P002_060_001_002.
This is a must if you are landing or launching from a vehicle or post with a carabiner attached.... ie... open Baja beaches. You can't release your chicken loop if your using this method. Of course you can just self-landing but sometimes the topography, fences, people, trucks, quads etc.... can prove challenging.
I'm a big fan of the New Ride Engine harness. It's stiff, fit's great, is very comfortable and light weight but I personally have an issue with the spreader bar. I'm using a small harness with my 32" waist with a 10" bar, I chose the 10" because it gives me more range however I find the bar to be molded too flat for me. Once the harness is tight I find the spreader bar is not very comfortable on my gut/abs. Maybe the 8" bar would help but I don't see how, I'll try it though. So far the older Jaybar Dynabar has been the ticket, It's got more of a be curve and is also padded... (special note: The newer JayBar V7 & V8 don't have as much curve)
The picture is of the Ride Engine Carbon spreader bar with a Dakine pad and a RONSTAN Snap Shackle vs the older JayBar. You can also ditch the hook/bungee on the JayBar and ride just on the Spectra line ( and no, it hasn't burned through the chicken loop on my Slingshot Bar and dose not show any wear after 5 months of riding)
Just my .02 cent's
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ldhr
Since 21 Jul 2009
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Hood River
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Wed Dec 16, 15 10:29 am |
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Interesting - here's the 10 inch metal bar that came with my harness.
It's has minimal padding - but it's very comfortable and has a builtin curve.
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Mr.Nacho

Since 16 Jul 2011
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Wed Dec 16, 15 10:57 am Ride Engine Harness |
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Wow! that looks like it has more of a curve than my Carbon Bar. I'll have to check into that as an option as well. The Ronstan Shackles are a bit spendy but will last a life time and also keep my de-power cleat on the right side rather than facing up when I'm riding...
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user124

Since 02 Aug 2012
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Portland
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Sun Dec 20, 15 2:50 pm Re: Ride Engine Harness |
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Mr.Nacho wrote: | Wow! that looks like it has more of a curve than my Carbon Bar. I'll have to check into that as an option as well. The Ronstan Shackles are a bit spendy but will last a life time and also keep my de-power cleat on the right side rather than facing up when I'm riding... |
For ocean kiting I've been using an old Dakine Renegade with the Dakine sliding hook, but it's getting worn out and I haven't been totally happy with it. The new Ride Engine with a sliding spreader bar looks like a sweet setup for the waves. I'm thinking the Ride Engine with a Dynabar offers more versatility than the simple sliding spreader bar offered by ride engine. I also like the idea of adding a snap shackle for tethered launch/land.
Do you remember which size/model Ronstan Snap Shackle you found worked best? I have no sailing background so I don't know the difference and hate to buy the wrong $50+ shackle.
Also, did you get the webbing adapter to attach the Dynabar to the new Ride Engine?
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Justsmile

Since 20 Jul 2009
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Not Portland
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Sun Dec 20, 15 2:53 pm Re: Ride Engine Harness |
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user124 wrote: | Mr.Nacho wrote: | Wow! that looks like it has more of a curve than my Carbon Bar. I'll have to check into that as an option as well. The Ronstan Shackles are a bit spendy but will last a life time and also keep my de-power cleat on the right side rather than facing up when I'm riding... |
For ocean kiting I've been using an old Dakine Renegade with the Dakine sliding hook, but it's getting worn out and I haven't been totally happy with it. The new Ride Engine with a sliding spreader bar looks like a sweet setup for the waves. I'm thinking the Ride Engine with a Dynabar offers more versatility than the simple sliding spreader bar offered by ride engine. I also like the idea of adding a snap shackle for tethered launch/land.
Do you remember which size/model Ronstan Snap Shackle you found worked best? I have no sailing background so I don't know the difference and hate to buy the wrong $50+ shackle.
Also, did you get the webbing adapter to attach the Dynabar to the new Ride Engine? |
Just ordered the dynabar sliding hook. Only 21 bucks plus shipping. Back ordered Til first week in jan from 321 kiteboarding. Should make a great set up once added to the ride engine harness!!
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Mr.Nacho

Since 16 Jul 2011
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Tue Jan 05, 16 10:36 pm West Marine Ronstan Shackle |
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Here are my choice of options. These were the smallest shackles of the two that seamed appropriate. Feel free to look further......
I was undecided if the swivel was necessary so I got the fixed bail for my wife's harness. My goal was to realign the SS chicken loop so the de-power strap was horizontal instead of facing straight up and allows for the transfer of the kite to others or strap assisted self landing without releasing the chicken loop from the RE harness rope. The RONSTAN Shackle "Lanyards" are an extra $5 or two for $7 on Amazon
Option #1
MFG #RF6100
WM Item #121046
Stainless Snap Shackle, 2200lb. MWL, 7/16" / 3/4" Min./Max. Line Dia. 2 19/32 Inches in length $36
Option #2
MFG #RF6110
WM Item #120949
Standard S-Bail, 2-11/16" L, 3/8" Opening Eye ID, 5/8" Bail ID, 1,249lb. SWL
This one has a swivel and is more expensive $52.66
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critter1
Since 12 Sep 2015
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I've experimented with different harnesses in the surf.
Waist - Ion Hummer set "not too tight" and allowed "slide" on my waist somewhat.
Ion Hummer with Dynabar.
Liquid Force Boardshorts (seat harness) with Dynabar.
While the fixed hook has its advantages, it doesn't outweigh the sliding hook in surf big or small.
So it's down to the waist vs the boardshort's harness. I won't even bother with the traditional seat "diaper" harness. The boardshort's have a very comfortable "free" feel. It just doesn't ride up and you'll never experience that waist harness "squeeze" around your ribs. You tend to expend a lot more energy in the surf, and gaining a full breath is underrated. It would be interesting to try the Ride Engine Harness for this very reason alone.
Conclusion - I like both with the Dynabar. When it's really cranking, or I'm lit up on the kite, the boardshorts with it's lower center of gravity gives me a little more stability on the water. Bending your knees and going low, seems more natural with the boardshorts (seat). I can also hold down just a little more kite power, and helps in the gusts. I'm usually down a size in the surf, so this isn't always an issue.
The waist, after riding the seat, just has a different feel. I like it. Maybe it goes back to my windsurfing days and preferring a waist harness. There's something to be said for having a little more flexibility from the waist down vs the seat. It's a toss up and all depends on my mood and or the conditions.
I read at time ago that some guys in Waddel CA prefer the boardshorts w/sliding hook vs the waist, so I tried it. It's a viable alternative.
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Mr.Nacho

Since 16 Jul 2011
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Wed Jan 06, 16 2:49 pm Custom harness adaptation |
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Oh ya, you can buy or find some Dakine harness webbing adapter's that will work to fit your Dynabar to the RE Harness. I haven't done that myself but I've seen it done....
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