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Seaside January 26, 2013
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Bill C

Since 15 Sep 2005
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Portland
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PostSat Jan 26, 13 5:50 pm    Seaside January 26, 2013 Reply with quote

Not much happened other than,
>pumping up my new 2013 Ozone Catalyst,
>flying it on the beach for awhile thinking there was enough wind to ride,
>getting suited up and have the wind die at the water's edge.

First time I've flown it which is a change from bridel kites I am used to flying. Not pimping the kite, but looking forward to flying a kite without pulleys. Hope it blows tomorrow.


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beech

Since 21 Aug 2010
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Longview, WA
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PostSat Jan 26, 13 6:24 pm     Reply with quote

"My Names BillC and I'm a kiteaholic"


"We Love you Bill!"

Thumb's Up Thumb's Up Thumb's Up

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D-Krep It Kiter

Since 18 Jul 2011
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PostSat Jan 26, 13 7:26 pm     Reply with quote

Gotta love that early season stoke! Nice looking kite btw.

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Bill C

Since 15 Sep 2005
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Portland
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PostSat Jan 26, 13 7:59 pm     Reply with quote

beech wrote:
"My Names BillC and I'm a kiteaholic"


"We Love you Bill!"

Thumb's Up Thumb's Up Thumb's Up


Dude, come out tomorrow. It's supposed to blow if you can believe those guys at Magic Seaweed and Sailflow.

But let me rant for a moment. I rely the wind forecasts because they often dictate what I do the next day so when they miss it, I'm like WTF happened. How can they miss the forecast that much?

I've been involved in wind-sports since the 1980's and everytime I go it's a gift because I have friends that are either dead or can't physically participate in water sports any longer. So I don't I complain around them too much about standing around "thumbing my nuts" waiting for the wind to blow. For those guys admitting they can't kite or windsurf any longer because of back or knee injuries or whatever ailment is a hard pill to swallow.

There's obviously more important things than kiteboarding (family, duty to country, whatever) but for me, its pretty high in the "me time" category. Here's hoping the forecast is good for tomorrow.

Last edited by Bill C on Sat Jan 26, 13 10:30 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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PostSat Jan 26, 13 9:23 pm     Reply with quote

Hood River Sunday - if u need that fix

Dont feel bad, today was "unsettled" at the north coast - nearly pulled the trigger but the offshore buoys never really went off - even if its nukin (like it was last night) it can be short lived...

NOAA is better for wind forecast than magicseaweed - tho they usually Nail the surf forecast

Can be magical when winter surf, wind and even sun all come together - never a slamdunk

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beech

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PostSat Jan 26, 13 9:26 pm     Reply with quote

nw 20-25 monday. buoy 29 forecast.
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Windian

Since 28 Apr 2008
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Newport, OR
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 9:36 am     Reply with quote

I don't ever go with Magic Seaweed for wind, their forecasts are good for swell, but not ever close for the wind.

NWS and NOAA are far better sources for accurately forecasting the wind, but they tend to generalize and blend a forecast across a 12 hr time period which is not precise enought for my liking.

I tend to go with my own forecasting skills and look at computer models and do it myself. Over 25 years of practice I have become deadly accurate for coastal wind forecasting especially for summertime north winds which is my real passion. Southerlies (storm winds) are a quite a bit more unpredictable, but can still be forecasted with some accuracy using the models available at the following website:

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/

I am not going to even try to explain how to use these models as I would have to write hundreds of pages, but if you are interested try to dive in and give it a go.
The GFS historically has proved itself to be more spot on then the NAM. Both are very good, and are the same models that the weather gods at NWS and NOAA look at for their forecasts.

Good luck with it, ...

Idea Idea Idea

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Windian

Since 28 Apr 2008
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Newport, OR
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 9:58 am     Reply with quote

Just did my analysis for today and tomorrow and thought I would share it with the forum.

Today virtually no kitable wind through most of the day all along the coast. There will be some brief periods in the late afternoon where the wind could puff up to 15 kts out of the west, but it will be short lived and associated with squalls. Very cold air temps in the mid to low 40's. Brrrr!

Tomorrow will be similar with another 5 kts adding into the wind speeds of today. It will be unsettled weather both days and the only wind will be squall oriented. Basically bullshit kiting conditions and if you happen to get a kite up in the air and collect a couple of reaches and don't get rained on consider yourself very lucky.

Personally I am not even going to try, I will probably end up doing a mt bike ride for exercise today as I did yesterday. Maybe work out at the gym if the weather turns really rainy.

Cool Cool Cool

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Bill C

Since 15 Sep 2005
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 7:30 pm     Reply with quote

OK, I feel better now. Wind kicked in about 1:00 today and I got about two hours on the water. Lots of rain and wind wasn't anything to brag about, but it was fun anyway. At one point, the wind blew directly from the west for about 15 minutes so it was fun to ride exactly paralell to the beach in 4 feet of water for some distance.

Upon finishing, I found this container in the surf. Looks Japanese to me but I have no idea. If it did travel long distance, its in good shape. The graphics are embedded in the plastic and not a wrapper so maybe that's why it held up. All of the text on the back of the contrainer are also in Japanese.

It either came from Japan, or was pitched from a boat or was bought at a mini-mart in Seaside.


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Dern

Since 11 Jul 2010
545 Posts
Vancouver, WA
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 8:12 pm     Reply with quote

You have a nice stove btw

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Bill C

Since 15 Sep 2005
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Portland
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 8:26 pm     Reply with quote

The cooking range was my wife's idea. I would have never done it, but thanks anyway.

I Google'd the text on the container and got..."Wahaha Nutri-Express Drink is a new milk-shake product for Chinese people according to their dietary constitutes and nutrition condidtion." Somebody must have bought it locally and left it on the beach.

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pjc

Since 06 Mar 2005
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PostSun Jan 27, 13 9:55 pm     Reply with quote

the flotsam from fukushima is washing up. take a geiger counter to it.

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Gman

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Portland
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PostMon Jan 28, 13 11:02 am     Reply with quote

Way to get it Thumb's Up - those direct onshore westies can be awesome

the window closed on Matt and i as we arrived event site (tho a few guys scored the morning sess) We headed east chasing the blue sky

conditions "Light" to " I'm going to the dam" - too bad the dam wasnt releasing or it would have been perfect - ended up downwindering to the boat ramp at the dam - thanks Matt for the support

the water somewhat bracing...


   jan rufus.jpg 

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Sasquatch

Since 09 Mar 2005
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PNW
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PostMon Jan 28, 13 2:33 pm    West winds brings in the fossum Reply with quote

Bill C wrote:
At one point, the wind blew directly from the west for about 15 minutes so it was fun to ride exactly paralell to the beach in 4 feet of water for some distance.


Awe, the west/WNW winds of the Winter and Spring. I distinctly remember doing a downwinder from Sunset to Seaside on 4-8-08; the West swell was 10' and lighter winds. I was riding a 16m C kite and it took me about 1 mile downwind to get past the big, glassy break. Finally there was a rip that created a window to exit out past the break. For the next mile I rode on the outside of the breaking waves (super green and glassy) as the direction of the wind made it hard to ride the breaking waves on the inside. After two miles downwind, one person from our downwind possee walks onto the beach, so I decided to ride in and see that was the matter with him or his gear. I hop on to the forming wave and attempt to ride it in, however, with the West swell and the W/WNW wind, the wave pushes me too far forward/ahead of my kite, my lines go lack and the kite Hindenburg's down onto the water. The kite is imposible to relaunch with the conditions so I let it pull me ashore as I was getting rather beaten by the large break. The kite was older and the waves blewout the canopy.

Moral of the story: if it takes you 1 mile of downwind riding to get outside the break with the conditions/wind and swell moving in similar directions, it probably is going to take you about the same distance to get back to shore. I should have eased my way back to shore instead of trying to get back on one tack/wave.

The other point of this story is these types of winds that come mid winter and in the Spring push all types of fossum (trapped in inter ocean current flows) into coastal currents that make contact with our coastline. On my walk of shame hike back upwind to the upwind/launch car (2 miles upwind vs 5 miles downwind), I discovered a very nice basketball sized Japanese glass fishing ball right at the water line. You can see the ball on this vid (minute 2:41) into this awesome kiting vid.

http://vimeo.com/2653992

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barfly

Since 31 Mar 2005
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Portland
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PostMon Jan 28, 13 4:04 pm     Reply with quote

Westerlies came in real nice yest afternoon like Bill said but I landboarded up at the jetty. Today though it blew hi teens to mid twenties in Seaside. Took a lunch break at hi tide on the skim, fun out in the shorebreak and inside behind the island butta!

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Bill C

Since 15 Sep 2005
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Portland
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PostMon Jan 28, 13 8:43 pm    Re: West winds brings in the fossum Reply with quote

Sasquatch wrote:
Bill C wrote:
At one point, the wind blew directly from the west for about 15 minutes so it was fun to ride exactly paralell to the beach in 4 feet of water for some distance.


I hop on to the forming wave and attempt to ride it in, however, with the West swell and the W/WNW wind, the wave pushes me too far forward/ahead of my kite, my lines go lack and the kite Hindenburg's down onto the water. The kite is imposible to relaunch with the conditions so I let it pull me ashore as I was getting rather beaten by the large break.

http://vimeo.com/2653992




Just reading that story scares me. I can't imagine kiting on the outside in the winter on a big day. There is so much water moving around especially when set waves come, there's no 'time out'. Some people can flow with it while I'm holding my bar with 'white knuckles'.

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Occupied Columbia

Since 12 Nov 2011
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Columbia City
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PostMon Jan 28, 13 10:42 pm     Reply with quote

I was out at sunset today on the west wind. 12m with a twin tip NO BOOTS. I was barely keeping offshore when I look behind me there is a dog chasing me. I can't increase my cut or he'll catch me for sure when I slow down. so the water is like 5",4",3" And the dog (a Greyhound ) is two feet from my butt. I think he thought he was chasing a rabbit. I was staring right into his face for a couple hundred feet. As soon as my fins rubbed sand I jumped from my board landed on the sand about ten feet away and the dog lost all interest. It was a good day.

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