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Hein

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PostWed Jun 20, 12 11:04 am    Why free enterprise is about morals, not materialism Reply with quote

Read please:

http://www.aei.org/article/society-and-culture/free-enterprise/why-free-enterprise-is-about-morals-not-materialism/

Thank you.

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knotwindy

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PostWed Jun 20, 12 6:07 pm     Reply with quote

ha ha, good one....
oh, you were serious, sorry
yes, of course, what was i thinking, free enterprise is the perfect system

because it was created by humans and everything they do is perfect as they always do things honestly and fairly.

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PostWed Jun 20, 12 8:46 pm     Reply with quote

the only better way is for the government to tell us our morals


baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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bulae99

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PostThu Jun 21, 12 5:22 am    BP Oil Disaster is Free Enterprise, less regulation Reply with quote

AEI is a right wing funded Neoconservative organization. Be careful how you vote

A list of members:


Christopher DeMuth, who served in the Reagan administration, has been president of AEI since 1986
Ted Frank is resident fellow and director of the AEI Liability Project.
David Frum, an author and former speechwriter for Bush, is a resident fellow.
Reuel Marc Gerecht is a resident fellow. He is the director of the Project for the New American Century's Middle East Initiative and a former Middle East specialist at the CIA.
Newt Gingrich, member of the Republican Party and Speaker of the United States House of Representatives between 1995 and 1999, is a senior fellow at AEI focusing on health care (he has founded the Center for Health Transformation), information technology, the military, and politics.
Author James K. Glassman is a resident fellow.
Michael Greve is the John G. Searle Scholar and director of AEI's Federalism Project.
Jeane Kirkpatrick is the former U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations and an AEI senior fellow.
Michael Ledeen was previously involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair -- an adventure that he documented in his book, Perilous Statecraft: An Insider's Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.
John Lott, Jr. is an opponent of gun control and the author of a book titled "More Guns, Less Crime."
Joshua Muravchik, is a Resident Scholar. He researches Middle East politics, democracy, neoconservatism and the history of socialism.
Charles Murray, an influential policy writer and a researcher, is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Culture and Freedom. He is best known as the co-author of the controversial The Bell Curve in 1994.
Michael Novak is the George Frederick Jewett Scholar in Religion, Philosophy and Public Policy and Director of Social and Political Studies at the institute. He has written extensively about the role of faith in government.
Richard Perle serves on the United States Defense Policy Board and the former deputy Secretary of Defense.
Lee Raymond, CEO of ExxonMobil, is the vice chair of AEI's board of trustees.
Christina Hoff Sommers is a critic of the feminist movement. She is the author of Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys.
Fred Thompson, the current D.A. on Law & Order and former U.S. Senator from Tennessee, researches "National Security & Intelligence (China, North Korea, and Russia)" for the AEI.
Ben Wattenberg, a speechwriter for President Lyndon B. Johnson, is a senior fellow.
John Yoo, formerly of the Office of Legal Counsel, and a professor at Boalt Hall, is a visiting scholar.


Funding sources:

AEI has received more than $30 million in funding from sources including the following:

The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
Castle Rock Foundation
Coors
Earhart Foundation
JM Foundation
Microsoft Corporation <1>
Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.
John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
Sarah Scaife Foundation
Scaife Family Foundation
Smith Richardson Foundation

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cnett

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PostThu Jun 21, 12 5:58 am     Reply with quote

This is a kiteboarding forum. I come here to get away from all that crap!

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dancingwind

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PostThu Jun 21, 12 12:33 pm     Reply with quote

cnett wrote:
This is a kiteboarding forum. I come here to get away from all that crap!


I second that!!

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tautologies

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PostThu Jun 21, 12 12:50 pm     Reply with quote

Hein, what a load of absolute nonsense. I cannot for the life of me understand arguments where it is this or that, when the truth pretty much ALWAYS lies somewhere in the middle.

Free enterprise without moderation does not work. All moderation and no free enterprise does not work.

The proposition of the article's argument is false. Free enterprise does not deal in morality at all. It is a non-topic. Free enterprises deals in weird values. You are right if you have money. In that respect I guess the author has done well, if it is a good system for most I doubt.

Human life, morality and values are not mentioned in free enterprise. It has no value unless it produces.

You cannot just choose to be morally right as the article suggests.

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PostSat Jun 23, 12 4:22 pm     Reply with quote

cnett wrote:
This is a kiteboarding forum. I come here to get away from all that crap!


Then don't click on the the thread - now wasn't that easy.

Good article Hein. For those of you who doubt it, think of what you do for a living. Now imagine if someone told you how to do it, how much you were going to charge and how much you would get paid, no matter how much better you are than someone else. It that fair?

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PostSat Jun 23, 12 5:55 pm     Reply with quote

mschulz wrote:
cnett wrote:
This is a kiteboarding forum. I come here to get away from all that crap!


Good article Hein.



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knotwindy

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PostSat Jun 23, 12 6:01 pm     Reply with quote

of course it is not fair,
but either is letting the bigger guy shit on the little guy just cause he can.
Free Enterprise can easily turn into a type of high school free-for-all without some few rules.
It has inherently no morals or values other than your own version of profit.
That is sort of it's definition what with the word free and all.

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 7:05 am     Reply with quote

consumers sort the good from bad, all the competition has to do is throw people under the bus if they are truely bad and the consumption shifts.

once the FREE is out of the equation the few WILL make the decisions for the many

I wish I were kiting this kind of jabber is good but really brings anger to peeps

"Can't we all just get along".......RIP Rodney and this thread please

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bulae99

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 8:14 am    Hein is the only guy I know Reply with quote

Who can kite a wakeskate in surf using a kite with a pulley bar. Amazing
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PostSun Jun 24, 12 8:45 am     Reply with quote

The reason none of it will work well
Jer. 10:23

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Nak

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 8:55 am    Re: Hein is the only guy I know Reply with quote

bulae99 wrote:
Hein is the only guy I know who can kite a wakeskate in surf using a kite with a pulley bar. Amazing


Word. The man has skills.

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tautologies

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 10:38 am     Reply with quote

mschulz wrote:
Good article Hein. For those of you who doubt it, think of what you do for a living. Now imagine if someone told you how to do it, how much you were going to charge and how much you would get paid, no matter how much better you are than someone else. It that fair?


Again the premise is false. First of all, even in a free market you are not free to charge whatever you want. The market decides. Second of all, the alternative to a free market is NOT only a completely closed market. It is somewhere in between...which is actually what you have in America. A completely free market or libertarianism will not work. It is nonsensical to think that most people will be happy in such a system.

I find it funny to see how little we have developed since the Roman empire. The biggest argument the conservative powers in Rome was using (in addition to bribes) was freedom and it mean exactly the same as today: NOTHING. It is a lure that has no meaning in it self. You are part of a system whether you like it or not.

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 12:06 pm     Reply with quote

cnett wrote:
This is a kiteboarding forum. I come here to get away from all that crap!


Yep, Hein is notorious for spewing his political views on the kite forum. Take it someplace else...this is a forum to get away from that stuff.

Now it is time to lock it down...

Naish wakeboards are much better in construction than SlingShot.

SlingShot kites fly way better than North kites.

North bar and line systems are superior in design over all other kite brands expect Ozone.

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tautologies

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PostSun Jun 24, 12 12:46 pm     Reply with quote

WTF. If you don't want to read stuff then don't no need to sabotage what other people are interested in. How about everytime you have an opinion, someone comes in and sabotages your post?

If you do not manage this forum, you should leave it to the moderators to lock.

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