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quenyaistar
Since 21 Oct 2011
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Cougar, WA
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I went to Rooster Rock later in the afternoon yesterday, didnt even know anything happened till I read it here, to fly my trainer kite.
I saw about 7 people kite boarding and I dont think any of them were wearing a helmet, sounds like it would be wise to wear one. |
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Mark
Since 20 Jun 2005
3678 Posts
I need my fix because I'm a
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 2:43 pm |
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| KMG-365 wrote: | OHSU and Emanuel are the trauma hospitals.. Emanuel is not the only one! Sometimes they alternate in the case one hospital already has a trauma activation. Anyone,when you called did you state he had neck pain/ with difficulty breathing and lucid intervals or was it just stated he was an unsoncious pt./kiter etc. for the possilbe activation of life flight. We see these dispatch remarks on a daily basis and you would be surprised the inaccuracy and lack of accurate detail that is given by callers who are trying to be helpful. Windy yes, visibiltiy good, the bird might have set down to pick him up. I would be curious to hear the details that were entered into the call for the dispatcher. Multiple agencies, mulitple people who think they are in command or no command presence can be an issue. Sounds like we had multiple agencies playing. Why did it take so long for the ranger and gator to make it? maybe they need some initial training about kiters and common injuries etc. Were they notified by phone or in person? Just asking questions that can help frame in the entire incident and response.
what happened with the self launch???
heal up fast so you can get back out YOUKAI!!!! |
I called 911 while running across the beach. I told them he was unconscious with possible neck and back injury due to blunt force trauma. As for the Gator. It never did make it to us. They were stuck. Afterwards I had a talk with the rangers and told them firmer ground was near the wooden rip rap and that would be the best possible route to the water.
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Nak
Since 19 May 2005
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Camas
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 3:16 pm |
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| Algo Sucedio wrote: |
When it comes to being rescued, we need to remember this is an extreme sport.
To expect first responders to risk their lives (life flight), or go beyond the “normal” call without compensation could be a bit Narcissistic. |
We're talking an easy two hundred yard walk from the parking lot of a major state park. Regardless of what kind of sport this is, I think it is reasonable to demand that we get the service we pay for with our tax dollars. If a paramedic is going to be concerned about getting their boots wet while rescuing somebody, I think they need to find a new line of work. That's my opinion anyway. |
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corey4x4man
Since 13 Jun 2011
134 Posts
Beaverton, OR
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 3:51 pm |
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| Get well soon buddy! |
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blancoh2o
Since 15 Mar 2005
1154 Posts
Oregon
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 3:53 pm Re: Man down at Rooster |
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| Nak wrote: | | On a side note, the Corbett paramedics were slower than molasses. Thank God it turned out speed wasn't of the essence. Even after they were there, it took them maybe 15 minutes to decide to actually walk out to the beach. Then what they went though to get him up the stairs was nothing short of ridiculous. |
How slow where they? The Corbett Fire Department is an all volunteer fire department and that means that the responders would have had to get paged out, leave their place of employment, drive to the fire station and then respond out to Rooster Rock State Park. If they could pull all that off within 15 minutes that would be considered a good response for an unstaffed station. Things always seem longer when you are on scene with your friend who is semi-conscious. Reemeber these guys and gals are all volunteer so you are not going to get the higher trained teams you are used to in the city. They do the best they can with a low budget.
http://www.corbettoregon.com/firedept/
Did AMR ambulance respond with the fire department? AMR provides the advanced life support (Paramedics) for Rooster Rock. AMR typicaly stages a unit in Troutdale. AMR is a private company and is in it for a profit. If the Troutdale unit is on a call, the next arriving ambulance will have to come from a further distance.
Getting Life Flight to a scene can be tough if the fire department or ambulance is not on there. They are usually requested by the responders who are already on the scene.
I am not making any excuses for what you guys experienced out there and I credit those of you who were on scene for helping Youkai as best as you could until the rescuers arrived. I hope my explanations help you understand why it took so long.
Heal up Youkai! See you on the water.
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pollywog
Since 07 Aug 2009
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 4:15 pm |
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We wish you a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing you on the water. Stay strong.
Rob & Amy (the sauvies beach clean up crew with the Pom)
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Portland
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MasViento
Since 03 Mar 2009
235 Posts
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 4:39 pm 40 mph ? |
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I may have second guessed a self launch if it was in fact blowing 30+ mph at Rooster.
Been kiting for almost 4 yrs. now and seen a lot of kooky shit...but self launch under those conditions may be a little out there in my my opinion.
just my 2 pesos worth...
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undertow
Since 15 Feb 2008
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BeaversBurg
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 5:19 pm |
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I have a self launch device that I have been using for years called "Kite Buddy" yeah gay jokes aside ...... It has worked for me at 50mph winds at rooster, nuking south winds at the coast and small beaches along the river. It has never done me wrong
Not affiliated with the co. Just saying |
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BeerKite
Since 29 Mar 2011
471 Posts
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 5:23 pm |
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| Heal up real quick William. Your stoke is needed to keep us going through the winter. |
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Aeolus
Since 20 Apr 2010
354 Posts
Gold Beach, OR
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 6:38 pm |
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| oh man....hope you heal up quick youkai... |
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Dern
Since 11 Jul 2010
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Vancouver, WA
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 9:08 pm |
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| Best of luck in the recovery! |
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PinkyBoarder
Since 04 May 2011
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Seattle, WA
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 11:03 pm |
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Ugh, I hate reading about injuries! I truly hope there is no head or neck injury at work here! Good luck youkai.
I've been out at rooster lately on these nuking days and it can be tough to get a launch/land now that its not as warm cause u may be out there with only a few other kiters, or alone! Using the carabiner by the bushes with an attached loop worked great! Or landing in the bushes where the wind gets blocked. Even did a few "buddy launches" there instead of self launching. (launching 1 person, then they launch u while keeping their kite out of the way). But that is probably frowned upon in 50mph winds 
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$ociopath
Since 28 Nov 2007
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Twilight Zone
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| Thu Nov 10, 11 11:10 pm |
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| Hope you heal quick brother! |
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pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
6081 Posts
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Sol-flyer
Since 21 Mar 2006
1280 Posts
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| Fri Nov 11, 11 7:10 am |
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Sad to hear about your incident youkai, hope you heal up quickly! My prayers are with you.
We should all take a moment to reflect on this, high wind kiting is no joke and mother nature will quickly humble any kiter no matter what the skill level is. Theres times when you have to really acess the conditions and determine the "what if's" scenario. We all gotta look after one another...nobody likes a being in a kitemare
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wytcap
Since 10 Mar 2005
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NW oregon
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| Fri Nov 11, 11 11:22 am |
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Nak,
I do not really know you, we kited together in LC the day after you saw the shark, you seem like a good guy,
But your statements about the 911 response is out in left field!
I work with steve and blake who have respond to this thread, we are Paramedics and have been for 20 plus years working in busy well funded system.
What you saw is what the tax payers of that response area have funded, the fire response will almost never have a Paramedic, they are lucky is they have basic first aid, this is true in most areas in most states.
You pay taxes in a very urban area and get a lot for what you pay for, you have to remember even though Roster Rock is close to the city it is not the same level of response.
It is sad but the way it is.
We all participate in very high risk sports, but we do so in areas that do not have a high level of help, usually.
I would expect the same level of care for my loved ones in the same situation but sadly this would not be the case.
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