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Pepi

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 11:28 am     Reply with quote

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I can't see how the growing economic impact of kite boarding could be considered "very minimal". I have no facts though. It would be interesting to see an economic impact statement measuring the true impact of kite boarding on the local community.


I would say that this is an important task to add on to the CGKA 'to do' list to some how find a way to work with the HR Chamber of Commerce and Port of HR to develop some sort of user/visitor impact data to help better represent the positive impact that Kiteboarding has on the HR community.

The impression of kiteboarding is in no way negative, just to clear the air, it is in fact positive.
The fact is that the current windsports community user days has gone down as technology and gas have influenced peoples decision making for when and how they want to travel for wind. It used to be back in the day, the beaches were busy with sailors solid from May1st to mid September. Now days we really don't feel the busy part of the season kick in until late June and then waning off around Mid August, leaving an impact of only about 2-2 1/2 months of visitors.
In comparison, our ski/snowboards season contributes a solid impact from October all the way through April (6 solid months of business).

I'd definitely like to find a way to change this perception, and get this sort of data updated or confirmed so that we really know what impact kiteboarding has on the community.

As I mentioned above, we'll put it onto a task list for the CGKA to find a way to work on this season.

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jaksavage

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 11:40 am    Thanks for the input Reply with quote

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HRnico

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 11:45 am    Nickel and Dimed Reply with quote

With reguards to parking, I'm local and spend most my income in Hood River and $5 for a couple hours parking after work is way to much. Last summer all was good, plenty of river for all. Why change anything?

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taycar

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 11:54 am    Re: Nickel and Dimed Reply with quote

If you're down there that often get a pass, it's 50 bucks. If you're using the facilities it makes practical sense to pay. When I drive in from Portland on the weekends and I down my coffee along the drive. I want a clean place I can lay the hurt down. Paying a little bit to have a clean place is worth it to me.
HRnico wrote:
With reguards to parking, I'm local and spend most my income in Hood River and $5 for a couple hours parking after work is way to much.

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jaksavage

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 12:01 pm    Spit parking Reply with quote

is free

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 12:34 pm    correction Reply with quote

It is my estimation the spit parking will be free, after a vote of the commission tonight. You are all welcome to attend! 5pm

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Bettyboarder

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 12:43 pm     Reply with quote

I am guilty of parking for free last year all the time I figured it didn't really matter I didn't mind walking a bit but after going to the last CGKA meeting it's actually sounds like it matter alot to the port.

It's how the Port gets their numbers (of kiters vs windsurfers using the ES) if half of us park outside the Event Site then they assume that only 50 kiters are there instead of the actual 100 or whatever. The data was really low I think alot more kiters use the site then they were counting last year but it's tough to show it to them when the figures aren't there.

Also the money goes into maintaining the Event Site & the Spit so when you think about it your really just paying to maintain the place you like to ride.

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melokitegirl

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 12:55 pm     Reply with quote

Pepi - you are such a great diplomat. I really appreciate how you write things. I actually preferred your first post. I like direct. Holly, you are so dead on. I am not in favor of launching/landing during the summer at the event site. A whole lot of trouble.

There are real issues with safety at the Event Site. I'm usually hanging out close by almost on a daily basis and watch what goes on. Very entertaining. I use to speak up and try to be helpful - but there is a lot of push back or aggressive resistance. Not that I was out there all finger wagging & being bitchy, but havng a tone of "Did you know?" - "Are you new here?". Smile on my face also. Just doesn't seem to work. What would it take to hand out a card with the rules posted on it? Or maybe better signage posted on the cyclone fence? Even the locals roll out their lines...

You are all gonna hate this (Safety Flare Claire)...what about a couple of volunteers on the weekends? Lifeguard-esk, switching off sessions so they could still kite. Kind of like ski patrol, but kite patrol - but mellow. I hate to even bring that up but it has become more crowded at the event site & the sandbar. I would hate to see something truly tragic happen and or having access for kiting revoked.

FYI - The windsurfers are there to stay. Get over it and make peace....or maybe even make a new friend. Share.

Please pay for your annual parking pass & CGKA membership. It does make a difference.

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Mark

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 2:41 pm     Reply with quote

Remember there are other grassy spots to rig and launch from....
Go to Bingen. Not the best launch site but there is NO ONE there. You can have all the grass you want.

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Windance Crew

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 3:48 pm     Reply with quote

Pepi, I have to disagree with you on the economic impact. Many Gorge businesses benefit from April to October from the wind customers traffic and spending. These include ourselves, and everybody from the gas stations to the restaurants plus the Port from their bridge traffic etc.

Yes it peaks in July but it's a big season and we are lucky to have the locals and the tourists supporting us as much as they do.

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Pepi

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 5:39 pm     Reply with quote

Windance Crew wrote:
Pepi, I have to disagree with you on the economic impact. Many Gorge businesses benefit from April to October from the wind customers traffic and spending. These include ourselves, and everybody from the gas stations to the restaurants plus the Port from their bridge traffic etc.

Yes it peaks in July but it's a big season and we are lucky to have the locals and the tourists supporting us as much as they do.


Hi Dave :

Just to clarify, this information is primarily based on feedback from discussions with other business owners via meetings with the Downtown Business Association and Chamber of Commerce, and not too forget the user data base from the Event Site and Sandbar parking passes.

I think that we are on the same page, in that the tourism business is exactly what keeps the town running as well as it does during the 'in-between seasons' and steady during the non-snow or non-windy days.

Your observation of the user days is just off by a couple of months. You know as well as I do the actual numbers that are available via the Event Site and Sandbar user data base (you are on the CGWA Board of Directors, so you already have access to these reports). In addition, this flow of user days varies dramatically with the weather (ie - cold June = single digit user days at the Event Site even on wknds).
These discussions are meant to be constructive and informative, it's not always great to pat yourself on the back for just showing up, but for participating and contributing.

It's all about making the kite community as visible/recognizable as possible, and representing as a supportive category for the local business establishments to be aware of.

Maybe at this Spring's kick off party we give free CGKA Kiter Tatoos with your membership to show off at the bar or cash register? ('Thumb's Up')

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caps

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 7:18 pm     Reply with quote

[quote="Pepi"][quote] Now days we really don't feel the busy part of the season kick in until late June and then waning off around Mid August, leaving an impact of only about 2-2 1/2 months of visitors.

Sounds reasonable to extend eventsite all-access period- Tues after labor day to 6/1.

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Pepi

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 9:59 pm     Reply with quote

caps wrote:

Sounds reasonable to extend eventsite all-access period- Tues after labor day to 6/1.
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Touche' good sir, touche'

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puckhog

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PostTue Apr 19, 11 10:34 pm     Reply with quote

Just to add a little color from a new visitor..

This is my first time to Oregon (travelling on business). I kite/windsurf in Mn., and jumped at the chance to take the hour plus drive from Beaverton, even though this is still early season. Wasn't able to bring my gear so I checked out local businesses for rentals (nothing available.. too early?)

Glad to see a number of local kiters out enjoying the sunshine at the event site. Even though I wasn't able to join you on the water, it was great to talk with a few of you (including your fellow windsurfers) and share the vibe that seems to permeate this town.

I visited a half dozen businesses in town, spending something in each, and the kites flying at the event site were like a beacon..

I don't know if you realize how lucky you all are.. one of the best venues in the world and wonderful people.

Regarding safety, melokitegirl .. I hear what you're saying.. the site is fairly crowded and the potential is there for a mislaunch;

But from my point of view, those downwind (other kiters) seemed to be very aware of what was going on, so it didn't concern me.

From my admittedly limited perspective, overall I think expanded access would be good for the town, but keep the communication going. I got some fliers from local shops, so it seems like supplementing those with any local event site concerns would go along way.

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forrest

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PostWed Apr 20, 11 7:01 am     Reply with quote

I have to say this discussion is much tamer than in years past.

Honestly, lunching and landing at the Event Site is crap. I understand the desire for convenience though. If we really wanted to go for convenience then some sort of bridge across the water gap would better suit us. That's unlikely to happen as well as the boat basin is Federally regulated navigable waters, even though you won't see a boat in there anytime soon. A smaller step that would make things more convenient is to prune those trees that your kite always gets hung up on.

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Gman

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PostWed Apr 20, 11 8:01 am     Reply with quote

Forrest wrote:
I have to say this discussion is much tamer than in years past.

Honestly, lunching and landing at the Event Site is crap.


Was pretty sweet yesterday - thanks CGKA Thumb's Up

Supernice with 6 kites out - July would be different story

Get May!

On a separate note who is the hardcore kid doing salmon survey work in the icy hood river Thumb's Up

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jackZ

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PostWed Apr 20, 11 5:37 pm     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
Forrest wrote:
I have to say this discussion is much tamer than in years past.

Honestly, lunching and landing at the Event Site is crap.


Was pretty sweet yesterday - thanks CGKA Thumb's Up

Supernice with 6 kites out - July would be different story

Get May!

On a separate note who is the hardcore kid doing salmon survey work in the icy hood river Thumb's Up


And another thing ,
Thanks Pepi for your help yesterday and a Big thanks to Ken , who I have not met , for picking up my Oaklys off the side walk , I was back later and got them from Pepi .

I don't mind being told of the rules wether I like them or not . It's hard work from what I've seen to get access in many locations . Thank You !
Yesterday was awesome , just like at home cause we only have 6 kiters . kidding , there has to be at least twice that .Laughing
I wouldn't even come here after mid may I hate crowds , I might get my kite tangled , Sorry again Jake @ kite Soldier .

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