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rePete · Since 18 Dec 2007 215 Posts Mosier, Oregon Stoked

Can any one explain why my post "Ocean Rodeo Razor and Slingshot Rally test" is locked? How do I contact the administrator?
thanks for any help

Moto · Since 03 Sep 2006 2698 Posts Still a gojo pimp! Moto Mouth

hey Repete,

unfortunately nwkite does not allow gear vs. gear threads. You can't compare brand x vs. brand y. Its because we have too many kite pimps and cry babies on the forum. As soon as someone says they like brand x - then all the brand y riders/pimps start posting up and then a lot of hate is spread around. Its rather annoying - but happens regularly. Just go to kiteforum.com to see what happens when brands get compared against other brands.

But for what its worth - your description was pretty damn informative. And the there are a couple of site administrators - I'm sure one of them locked it up - cus it breaks the rules.

DROCK999 · Since 31 May 2007 852 Posts Left Coast Opinionated

Yes, your post was locked because we live in a communist society where comparing anything is illegal. actually your thread getting locked was horseshit because it was comparing kites, who cares about the brands.

Nak · Thu Sep 30, 10 3:46 am

It's not communist and it's not horseshit. It's Phil & Nicole's forum and they make the rules 'cause they do all of the work. Seems like they do a pretty damn good job, considering everyone seems to like it here enough to post & read. A few people complain, but I don't see anyone rushing out to build their own forum. Don't like the rules, build a new forum & make your own rules.

I want to thank Phil, Nicole & Forrest for all the hard work they put into this place!!! You guys ROCK!!!! Thumb's Up

rePete, Moto hit it on the head. PKH instituted this rule a long time ago. It's his belief that brand vs brand ends up causing a lot more grief than it's worth. Looking at other forums, I gotta say I agree with him. Nothing prevents you though from PMing somebody that has questions about a particular kite. Not dissing you, your post was well thought out & informative. Just explaining the philosophy.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

rePete - its like what the others said, and it was not intentioned to single you out. Your review can stand on its own (didn't delete it.)

If you are looking to dive in on those types of subjects, I'd check out Kiteforum (seriously.)

We just decided a long time ago this forum was not going to be about comparing kite A to kite B, for the reasons mentioned above. Within brands we generally allow comparisons, and board vs board threads are generally ok.

I know it seems odd but its a formula that's worked so we're sticking with it Very Happy

Cheers,
-Phil

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

I'll say fukin odd
not being able to dicuss kites on a forum about kiting
because some children are such ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,------------------_______________

maybe we have grown up ?
no such luck
Laughing

It seems to me that the comparisons on the Kiteforum are pretty helpful.

The pimps here and there can stick in thier ass if they don't care what's said about thier product
(It's usually just one company that gets hateful anyway)
Although most kites are decent nowdays some are needing a little scrutiny

In my less than intelligent opinion

rePete · Since 18 Dec 2007 215 Posts Mosier, Oregon Stoked

Thanks for the all the feedback. I have no problem following the guidelines that have been set up. I'm not selling anything and just wanted to share what I learned about these two similar kites. I saw a topic on just the Rally with quite a few comments. It was very helpful to me since I'm considering buying one.
Now it's time to get some more of these warm easties today! Thanks again.

tstansbury · Since 06 Jun 2006 649 Posts Rowena and P.C Addicted

nice review pete It was the vs that got it locked If it was to seperate post like the ralley they would have stayed open.

jbruxer · Since 24 Jul 2005 398 Posts Beaverton, OR Obsessed

Personally, I think the fact that repete's post was locked is total crap. Before I get shamed for this comment, let me just state a few things.

1) Sure, this is Phil/Nicole's forum and they can do what they want...check
2) kite vs. kite threads in the past have resulted in little good....check
3) repetes comments were accurate and detailed

but...

1) If I'm looking to replace my gear, I want to see a side by side comparison of kites. Not one review and then another.

2) Why would I want to go to kitescoop or ikite to see these types of posts? I want to know how these kites fly in PNW conditions. We have a unique set of spots that require reviews based here. Also, I would value the opinions of most people here before I would anyone on those sites.

3) Perhaps we need a new tab on the top for gear vs gear threads because some of us see a lot of value in this.

...rant off.

Windance Crew · Since 18 Apr 2008 473 Posts Hood River Kite Shop Obsessed

Hey Repete,

Good review. I understand the forum rules and you gotta agree it's a good forum, maybe they will addanother section one day with "no holds barred"

Yardsale · Since 29 Mar 2005 387 Posts Portlanastan Obsessed

......with respect forums are not a good place to get info on gear, there is too much variability of info- partial information, bias, hype, inexperience, and just plain bad information are all prevalent on forums. Talk to shops that carry the gear and if possible demo. There are plenty of guys on this forum that are hooked up with different companies- Schey with Slingshot, Mark Barnes with Naish, Chooch (Brian) with Wainman, Tekko with Liquid Force Dave Tybursky-Airush Dave Nunn (Windance) -Ocean Rodeo, Kristin Ulmer-Cabrinha, Jim Bison-Best and Dan-North. Gorge Performance, 2nd Wind, Windance, Oregon Surf Shop and Big Winds all can give you information on a variety of Kites. Very Happy

Chooch · Thu Sep 30, 10 10:29 am

blowhard · Since 26 Dec 2005 2027 Posts Windward

well the reason is that ,,like everything in the internut
You need to sort through the bs
and make your own decsions (wouldn't hurt to see the kite in action either)
for taking someones opinion for it ,forget that

as far as slagging other Co.s
putting down your competion only makes you look bad (not to mention lowers the bar)
sides,,
this forum is pretty dull Embarassed

for those that like to stir it up Laughing

jbruxer · Since 24 Jul 2005 398 Posts Beaverton, OR Obsessed

shred_da_gorge · Thu Sep 30, 10 12:41 pm

craz z · Since 01 Dec 2008 130 Posts Montana Stoked

Gosh this site rocks I wish they'd do something over at the kiteforum especially in the snow/land section where its plagued by foil fliers that won't take any other suggestions for kiting on snow then the beloved foil.

Maybe there is a NO FOIL vs. LEI thing that could be setup if not already in place. Its aggravating watching half truths and total Lies about the concept.

Not to mention the pimps and hoes over there.

Everything you guys have said is true brands don't matter and try before you buy I've said it a 1000 times and it always ends in a bad way. 1000$ kites are a big decsion that has no business for glorified testimonials.

Its sad but i think true that especially newbs are subjected to pimping of any kinda gear and not knowing or able to see a shop or instructor buy what they see on the net.

My hats off to you for stopping it before anything gets going. Very Happy

There's no such thing as a snowkite unless your in the snow with your kite.

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6549 Posts Couve / Hood Honored Founder

Yeah demos are so easy to hookup... why read the review when you can test drive and draw your own conclusions.

There are subtlies in the way all kites fly that is really hard to represent in a written review.

These days kites are designed more for personal taste than anything else, so make sure you give one a go and make sure it matches your style before making a decision.