Waroo adjustments?

Mark · Wed Jul 05, 06 10:05 am **Waroo adjustments?**

After perusing the Best web page I find that there are several adjustments for the Waroo.
Which adjustments have you all been making?

Anyone making the modification to F-a and F-c Bridle lines?

What "knot" are u riding? (rear steering lines)?

Thanks in advance.
mark

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

Here's my formula:

- Pump it hard.

- Rig to the last knot on the rears (most rear line length) unless its light then rig one knot in.

- I don't touch the depower strap unless its nukin windy and/or I want to do unhooked stuff.

- Hands in the center of the bar.

- Full power is pulled in all the way to the chicken loop, usually I am riding with the bar about 3 inches up the line from the chicken loop.

I haven't touched the bridle since mine was a post-mod serial number.

Mark · Wed Jul 05, 06 10:20 am

Thanks Phil,
I assume mine must have the mod done as well.

I also see you can adjust the bridle knots to change the pivot point. You can make the kite fly more like a "c" kite or make it "slide" like a bow. Has anyone played with this?

pkh · Since 27 Feb 2005 6548 Posts Couve / Hood Site Lackey

I was thinking about it Mark and you might like to ride with the bar further out since your arms are longer, so you might try the one knot in method.

broadbandito · Since 26 Apr 2005 342 Posts CSO headwaters WheatHead

No harm in trying the different bridle knots to see what you like. I use 2nd from back.

Also, it makes sense cinch the lark's head right over the bridle knot so it doesn't slide between knots in gusty conditions (assuming the whole kite and bar don't expode like fireworks on you anyway).

J.P. · Since 10 Mar 2005 638 Posts Addicted

J.P. · Since 10 Mar 2005 638 Posts Addicted

Kodiak · Since 01 Aug 2005 1114 Posts Slidey

Mark,
Your kite should already have the mod, since mine did and they came in the same batch. I have been flying the 3 knot in from the bottom, but then again I do adjust the depower strap depending on conditions.

Mark · Wed Jul 05, 06 2:33 pm

bandito · Since 07 May 2005 178 Posts Photographer

I have a 7,9,12 waroo quiver and am flying all of mine on the 3rd knot from the bottom. I have found that this gives the kite a little better low end, but if you are going to unhook you need to pull the depower strap down about an inch or she'll back fly in a lull. Just spend some time playing around and you'll find what works for you.
Bandito

gabe · Since 16 May 2005 475 Posts Obsessed

i have not yet experimented with the slide/traction setting. i don't want more bar pressure, and i don't think i want less power in the turns, but i would like to try the slide setting. i haven't cared enough to waste session time fussing with it yet. most people use the default, and best chose it b/c they think it's best. since the kite is new, this isn't a setting i would worry about. i think the main thing is getting used to sheeting the kite. i talked to you at stevenson yesterday--if you want a high wind kite for the gorge, a pretty clear consensus is that the 9 is too big.

honestly, i just don't understand why everyone obsesses about what # knot they use... this all varies by bar, and lines, and trim system etc. i don't think everyone has the same setup, and even if they do i don't trust it's exactly the same. just like any kite i rig it so when the trim is fully powered up, i can oversheet a good couple inches, and then i can trim on the water to however is best at any point. sorry, but i've seen too many posts of "i put it on x knot like you said, and when i pull the bar in the kite just flaps and the rear lines are loose. this kite must be defective." hello!

mikes · Since 13 Mar 2005 90 Posts B'Ham

Whatever knot you use to connect your rear lines is a tradeoff for depowering range. If the wind is light I connect to the knots closer to the kite, if it's really windy the knots further away. I usually split the difference and use the third or fourth knot

As for the turn adjustment knots, I tried em all and like the middle the just fine, the "bow" style setting sucked IMO, couldn't jump worth a bean, just took alot of zing out of the kite. The "C" style setting wasn't much different from the middle, a tad more pull while turning, more effort needed on the bar to turn the kite

Mike S

Mark · Wed Jul 05, 06 4:14 pm

Good info everyone!
Where is everyone connecting their safety leash?

gabe · Since 16 May 2005 475 Posts Obsessed

mike's right about that, but if you have a TD style system you can set it up where you have almost unlimited depower--no matter where the knots are. but, you have a really long trim line dangling then--that's what i try to avoid. i memorize the right knot for my setup per kite, and then might adjust by 1, if i am certain i will be on an extreme of the range and want to optimize flexiblity for that. the thing to realize is that oversheeted and depowered positions depend on how strong the wind is.... the fact that you can fully luff the kite in 15 kts, doesn't mean you still can in 30... it takes a couple sessions to learn which knot can cover the whole range. but really, it's no different from any other kite from my perspective--it just makes the settings matter more.

tinyE · Since 21 Jan 2006 2004 Posts not really an XTreme Poster