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Sella

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PostTue Mar 02, 10 9:30 pm     Reply with quote

mikeinhoodriver wrote:
So, still being a newb.... to what extent can you "train". I have recently been using a B3 and a longboard skate at the Event Site, but what else can I do. A buddy has an older Naish 4m Bow/SLE.... should I be taking that to the water to practice relaunches? If I do, I am a hefty 200lbs, so any dangers involved with "dryland" training if the wind is not nuking? Seen the videos, etc..... looking for more pre-season options, beings I dont have a warm wetsuit at present.


Mike the B3 and longboard is cool but get that Naish from your buddy and I'll meet you at the Event Site to review a few tips to help turn on Idea the process.

A 4M at 200 pounds in decent wind....will be educational and safe but I'm not certified, nor a trainer, so no charge...you'll get just the basic bro deal. PM me to coordinate a time.

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostWed Mar 03, 10 1:13 pm     Reply with quote

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pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Yeah, I would also run away from kiteboarding as fast as possible. Its too late for me, but you still have hope. Go enjoy your life while this is still time. The rest of us are doomed.



....but I want to wear a steel mask as well! How about a serious answer for question above....


hmm not sure if your looking for the touchy feely "let me gingerly hold your little hand in mine" answer or the no bullshit answer. Since u have been here since April and have 169 posts I'm going to go with the latter.

Put your trainer in the closer, get off your arse and get a lesson with jet ski support.

Carpe diem my friend

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Moto

Since 03 Sep 2006
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PostWed Mar 03, 10 1:40 pm     Reply with quote

mikeinhoodriver wrote:
So, still being a newb.... to what extent can you "train". I have recently been using a B3 and a longboard skate at the Event Site, but what else can I do. A buddy has an older Naish 4m Bow/SLE.... should I be taking that to the water to practice relaunches? If I do, I am a hefty 200lbs, so any dangers involved with "dryland" training if the wind is not nuking? Seen the videos, etc..... looking for more pre-season options, beings I dont have a warm wetsuit at present.


When you say "dryland" training - on land the 4M could pull you off balance and smash you on your face fer ser.

BTW - asking monkey for a serious answer is like asking a starving bear to not eat you fer lunch Laughing

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mikeinhoodriver

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PostWed Mar 03, 10 1:46 pm     Reply with quote

Moto wrote:
mikeinhoodriver wrote:
So, still being a newb.... to what extent can you "train". I have recently been using a B3 and a longboard skate at the Event Site, but what else can I do. A buddy has an older Naish 4m Bow/SLE.... should I be taking that to the water to practice relaunches? If I do, I am a hefty 200lbs, so any dangers involved with "dryland" training if the wind is not nuking? Seen the videos, etc..... looking for more pre-season options, beings I dont have a warm wetsuit at present.


When you say "dryland" training - on land the 4M could pull you off balance and smash you on your face fer ser.

BTW - asking monkey for a serious answer is like asking a starving bear to not eat you fer lunch Laughing


.... I thought he might not be hungry. Very Happy Not my first dance with the Monkey... probably not the last.

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mschulz

Since 29 May 2007
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PostWed Mar 03, 10 2:01 pm     Reply with quote

mikeinhoodriver wrote:
A buddy has an older Naish 4m Bow/SLE.... should I be taking that to the water to practice relaunches? If I do, I am a hefty 200lbs, so any dangers involved with "dryland" training if the wind is not nuking? .


Well, this is what could happen on pavement. Ouch, that just looks like it has to hurt Shocked


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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 3:49 am     Reply with quote

I think your grossly mistaken if you think my answer was not serious. I couldn't be more serious. You may think I'm just being a dick, but what the HELL are you WAITING for? Doesn't take a year of flying a trainer kite to learn to kb. If there was seriously something that I could teach you on land I would. But honestly, if you can ride a skateboard AND fly a kite at the same time... you need to get on the water. Mike I will be into the full on lunch hour sessions at the sandbar this summer if you want to sesh.

The truth of the matter is that there is nothing that you can practice that will make you a better kiteboarder besides kiteboarding. If your learning watch some vids, take some lessons and if you dig it, buy some gear as fast as you can and get out on the water.

Skate kiting is great in the off season and if you get out when its nuking it can really stengthen your ankles. Stretching is good also. Once your up and tacking back and forth, find someone that looks like they know what they are doing and ask them to give you some tips. I love seeing people get better and progress and will always give people tips out on the water or lend a hand when things go south.

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mikeinhoodriver

Since 23 Apr 2009
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PostThu Mar 04, 10 6:31 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Monkey.... I did start last year. Got my quiver, got my boards, just dont have a warm wetsuit, hence the question was related to what to do in the early/pre-season while the water is still chilly. I follow what you're saying. I am still a newb and struggle with staying upwind... just dont want to get cold... Smile I'll have to look you up for summer sesh, until then stay warm.

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forrest

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 8:38 am     Reply with quote

Mike, head over to 2nd Wind and talk to Pepi about a Hyperflex AMP 5/4/3 with Hood.

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mikeinhoodriver

Since 23 Apr 2009
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PostThu Mar 04, 10 9:45 am     Reply with quote

Forrest, Exactly what I'm gonna do! My anniversary is next week, so looks like my wife is gonna get me a gift... Smile Forget dryland training.... were just gonna have to get wet!

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 10:38 am     Reply with quote

Mike, also look at the O'neil 5/4 or 5/4/3 mutant. Very flexible and super warm. I've never been cold in it, ever.

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kochease

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 10:56 am     Reply with quote

Mike check out the new Hyperflex Amp K. It is sweet!! Has a drain system on the legs so they don't fill up like balloons... Shocked
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forrest

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 11:07 am     Reply with quote

The mutant is baddass, except it's $350 last time I checked...

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Mike, also look at the O'neil 5/4 or 5/4/3 mutant. Very flexible and super warm. I've never been cold in it, ever.

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 11:37 am     Reply with quote

I think it can be had for $300 online. I bought mine at gorge P and with a 20% in-store credit, was able to buy a pimp pair of booties as well. I figure that you can wear any cheap piece of trash wetsuit in the spring and summer but when it comes to a winter wetsuit, it was worth spending more to get a super nice suit.

I can't say enough about the mutant. the interchangeable hood/ neck seal is awesome and not having any zipper is also a plus. Chooch just picked one up and I think he is really happy with it.

But yeah, if you don't have the cash you don't have the cash.

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mikeinhoodriver

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 12:38 pm     Reply with quote

...Thanks for the tips. Hope to have one by next week. I am looking to buy a suit with hood attached....ok? regret? Mutant might be a bit out of price range.

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 12:54 pm     Reply with quote

Its a personal preference thing. A hood is nice when the air is cold as if your head is cold, your hands and feet WILL get colder, faster. The nice thing about the mutant is that its both a hoodie/non-hoodie. Folding back a hoodie tends to be quite uncomfortable.

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mikeinhoodriver

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PostThu Mar 04, 10 12:58 pm     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Its a personal preference thing. A hood is nice when the air is cold as if your head is cold, your hands and feet WILL get colder, faster. The nice thing about the mutant is that its both a hoodie/non-hoodie. Folding back a hoodie tends to be quite uncomfortable.


Yeah, I noticed that. Looks like a good feature to have.

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holly

Since 09 Jul 2006
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PostThu Mar 11, 10 6:23 pm     Reply with quote

as a previous kiteboard instructor i would highly recommend buying a trainer kite and a harness. Fly the trainer then once you get comfortable strap on the harness and get a harness loop for the bar, practice flying the kite hooked in because that is what it will be like flying a bigger kite. you will notice that the pull will be on the harness and not your arms. practice flying it one handed walking one way and the other. Getting a DVD will help you visualize what you are trying to accomplish. anyways good luck!

also if you practice with the trainer it will cut the time you will be paying an instructor to teach you and allow you to spend more time on bigger kites and water lessons.

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