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Kodiak

Since 01 Aug 2005
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 3:21 pm     Reply with quote

JUMPIN JIMI wrote:
YOU SHOULD BE A WEDDING PHOTOG IF YOU NEED MONEY Idea THIS SPORT IS BIG ENOUGH WITHOUT YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN ALL THE KITEBOARDING MAGS Question WAY TO TOOT YOUR OWN HORN Shocked


Maybe he doesn't like taking pictures of weddings? I am sure he will take your career advice to heart though Rolling Eyes

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Navanod

Since 20 Feb 2007
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Beaverton
Stoked



PostWed Jul 22, 09 3:22 pm     Reply with quote

I'm confused... How is this sport perceived?

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chanson

Since 31 Jan 2006
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WISCONSIN
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 3:25 pm     Reply with quote

uhhh I thought Trevor was super cool!... and obviously a professional... holy shit Eli, he does look like the American Famous dude....

dude, do what you want.., hold out.... shit I wish I had that lifestyle..

don't let the selfish kiters get to you...everyone is a photo-snob on here Cool

I bet you have some real treasures after that night at jones in the butter though....

lemme know when my pic gets published.. Wink Cool

seriously though when's the next shoot...? Cool

also, the paying thing doesn't seem like too bad of an idea

oh, and I think it's great getting some different pics of the sport/industry..

forums are crazy... dogs, pooh, bonetti, more bonetti, event site, starbucks, now photogs.....what next Confused

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strachman

Since 09 Aug 2007
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 3:43 pm     Reply with quote

P.s. Thanks for the tips out on the water, got some good pointers about being a photo subject from you.[/quote]

Chooch, You know enough about photo subjuects you CHIMO.

Hey trevor, you've got an incredible eye.

See you in VT.

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colby

Since 23 Apr 2005
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 4:38 pm     Reply with quote

Trevor, great meeting you at Jones and thanks for being so open on your work and the way of the industry - what talent and accomplishment in little more than a year!

SUP on whitewater! Shocked


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Tommy

Since 12 Apr 2009
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 4:41 pm     Reply with quote

Checked out your site. Beautiful stuff, Trevor! The digital photography revolution, like the desktop publishing revolution before it, has done two things. It's put some amazing technology into the hands of the public and enabled a lot of would-be creatives to expand the scope of what they're capable of at the hobby level. Unfortunately, it's also had the effect of eroding the public's value of creative professionals who put in the time, study, practice and sacrifice necessary to perfect their craft and realize their vision. Best of luck to you, man!
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HotRod_18

Since 28 Nov 2008
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 5:32 pm    awesome! Reply with quote

Great stuff! Super cool meeting you this weekend....we picked you up in the little boat at the end of your photog session.

Awesome site, neat blog Cool

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Rico

Since 13 Mar 2005
1219 Posts
Vancouver
Photographer



PostWed Jul 22, 09 6:43 pm     Reply with quote

You should learn to kite because most photogs that don't disappear after a couple months. Share the stoke and don't hate. If you want to see some local photos in a mag pick up the latest kiteboarding mag and see Forrest's monster raley.
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boardrider

Since 05 Apr 2006
1034 Posts
Ventura, CA
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 7:11 pm     Reply with quote

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stringer

Since 31 Jul 2007
694 Posts
Chucktown
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 7:28 pm     Reply with quote

I heard Trevor is learning to kite and is a natural at it.

As far as changing our image goes, it would be interesting to see kiteboarding in outdoor/adventure magazines.
I think that would really help us seem less like adrenaline fueled stunt junkies and more like actual athletes doing a real sport.
Press like that will help us in the future when trying to maintain access and put features in the water.

Trevor, thanks for your effort!
See you on the water!

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FlyDunes

Since 09 Oct 2007
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Aloha
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 7:59 pm     Reply with quote

JUMPIN JIMI wrote:
YOU SHOULD BE A WEDDING PHOTOG IF YOU NEED MONEY Idea THIS SPORT IS BIG ENOUGH WITHOUT YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN ALL THE KITEBOARDING MAGS Question WAY TO TOOT YOUR OWN HORN Shocked


I don't think you'd say that if you knew him.

I applaud anyone that takes the big leap and lives their dream. Would you rather take pics of weddings or kiters?

Trevor has taken some pics of me kiting and paragliding that, given my advanced age, I'm sure will only be suitable for viagra or AARP ads. I hope he sells a ton of them.

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Blue

Since 03 Jul 2007
469 Posts
I used to be
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 9:48 pm     Reply with quote

Hein wrote:
Nice work and way to go sticking up for your intellectual property Thumb's Up although I've always wondered who really owns the shot. Photog or rider? No pirated software in the van, right?

Photog owns copyright, no doubts there. And as long as he has proper signed subject release "For consideration that I acknowledge ... blah blah" he can do with it as he pleases.

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Inept_Fun

Since 14 Apr 2005
1417 Posts
Hood River
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PostWed Jul 22, 09 10:14 pm     Reply with quote

You could always lower the res and put a fat watermark on your images and send people that if they ask, or a link to an online gallery with the pics in it. As long as you lower the res and have the watermark, and dont give away any mag shots, u should be ok.
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dangerD

Since 27 Jun 2005
223 Posts
Bingen Heights
Stoked



PostThu Jul 23, 09 6:46 am     Reply with quote

sweet pics!
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Bettyboarder

Since 18 Mar 2005
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PDX/ White Salmon
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PostThu Jul 23, 09 7:17 am     Reply with quote

Just a tip is that there isn't really any $$$$ in kiteboarding photo's...you could probably make more $$$ selling the photos of the rider to the riders....just something to think about. I am sure all those guys at Jones would drop a bit of cash for photos of themselves.

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wakeup

Since 11 Sep 2005
328 Posts
always
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PostThu Jul 23, 09 8:27 am     Reply with quote

if you like shooting wake---
why aren't you at the sandbar
got a fun crew here now, with james and erk, shannon is in town,medysky, and david
kicker is on the water
the big box is back and should be back out by weekend or early next week

most photogs i work with give me my pics for my personal collection, with the agreement that if the shots get used that the photo still belongs to the photographer. therefore permission must be obtained.
but i don't go posting my shots on the net either

besides, without the rider, what kinda pics would you get

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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
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retired kiter & motorhead Unicorn Master



PostThu Jul 23, 09 9:11 am     Reply with quote

Trevor, your obviously a cool guy and you indeed know how to take some great pictures. There are many valid points in this thread ranging from its awesome to follow your dreams and strike your own course to hey, all you do is take take take- publishing kiteboard pictures in the mainstream media does little to improve the stoke.

As you probably learned, kiteboarders are absolute lens whores and love to see themselves and show others how they are progressing. It's a little more than just ego, there is the WAPaah factor to it. I would think however that if people are expending their energy to work with you so you can get the shot but they get nothing in return for it, that at some point people are just going to say "ummm yeah, I'm just going to go ride".

Their are many a talented semi-pro and professional photographers that get their primo pictures published in the magazines and media while still managing to give out or post a few selected images to share the stoke. Your hoeing a tough row and to make it, I think that a diversified marketing strategy, and one that gets riders stoked to push it in front of your lens would ultimately benefit you and your business. It seems that this diversified strategy would include a way for people to view your images and purchase them for themselves if they want. I'm sure your technologically savy enough to limit the general public's viewing of your files to include only those that are actually in the image.

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