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T3 1:1 and Duck tacks

 
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Wind Slither

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:03 am     Reply with quote

I changed my T3 to 1:1 mode yesterday and took it out in steady but fairly overpowered conditions.

Overall I liked it much better. Much more direct steering without the "on/offy" feel.

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PS. I also FINALLY got a couple duck tacks after much frustration! Razz

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Blue

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:12 am     Reply with quote

Interesting. Was the decreased depower range an issue? Sounds like you had perfect conditions to determine that, being slightly overpowered.

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viento

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:13 am     Reply with quote

Slither your my hero! Was working on the duck tack the other day and spent more time in the air than on my board.

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chanson

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:14 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
PS. I also FINALLY got a couple duck tacks after much frustration!


If that's what I was trying at SI last night, then I got some too!!!!! Cool

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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:30 am     Reply with quote

Hmm cool split topic works, I'll get the hang of this moderating thing sooner or later. Wink

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eli_anderson

Since 04 Jun 2007
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PostFri Jul 17, 09 11:44 am     Reply with quote

Wind Slither wrote:
I changed my T3 to 1:1 mode yesterday and took it out in steady but fairly overpowered conditions.

Overall I liked it much better. Much more direct steering without the "on/offy" feel.

Thumb's Up

PS. I also FINALLY got a couple duck tacks after much frustration! Razz


Does the center system still run through a pully? I'd like to fly that again so I can see what you are saying.

what he f is a duck tack? is that a jybe of some sort?

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brass

Since 15 Jul 2006
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PostFri Jul 17, 09 12:05 pm     Reply with quote

Yeah what exactly is being 'ducked' in said tack? Unless I have the concept wrong it seems that this is just a tack. Also I am not really familiar with the Turbo set up but my girlfriend runs them and is complaining that the 11m is too slow. Would the 1:1 set up help with the steering response? If so, how do you do it?

And for what it's worth I can't see any kiter calling out another over professionalism. Kiting is not a job unless you are a pro...neither is running a forum although it probably feels like one today.

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Sella

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 12:09 pm     Reply with quote

Try this guys....I think it will help explain.

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/How-to-duck-tack-your-surfboard_2433898.aspx

Slither....congrats amigo!!!

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brass

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 12:28 pm     Reply with quote

Right I remember watching that when bulea posted it but I still don't see what is being ducked. Seems like sort of a shovit with a spin or something but I guess it doesn't matter...just words. Props if you can do it. Not quite there yet but I am getting shovits consistently now and that feels good.

and the 1:1 set up?

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eli_anderson

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PostFri Jul 17, 09 12:55 pm     Reply with quote

Sella wrote:
Try this guys....I think it will help explain.

ahhh....sicko, very nice, go slith!!

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostFri Jul 17, 09 6:33 pm     Reply with quote

the bar is what is being ducked I thinks - so I can tack dangle and rocket off in the new direction


is seabreeze dude doing a back roll or ole or something?

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kitezilla

Since 22 Jun 2006
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PostSat Jul 18, 09 9:00 am     Reply with quote

Dudes,

Please show some respect for your elders!

The Duck Tack is the king of the old school Windsurfing "tricks of the trade". Let it be!

We've taken over their launches, their water and wind, their parking spots, their Gorge Cool, their recreational status.... enough is enough!

Call the kicky new move the "wack tack", the "back tack", the "Jack tack", the "hack tack"...anything but the "Duck Tack".



Are we too cool to be kind?

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blowhard

Since 26 Dec 2005
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PostSat Jul 18, 09 9:02 am     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
the bar is what is being ducked I thinks - so I can tack dangle and rocket off in the new direction


is seabreeze dude doing a back roll or ole or something?


a front roll

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Wind Slither

Since 04 Mar 2005
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PostSat Jul 18, 09 10:36 am     Reply with quote

1:1 Mode

Yes, down at the bar you disconnet the center attachments and reattach the outside lines to themselves so you are in effect bypassing the pulleys. On the kite, your moving the front pully and the rear attachment point forward.

I didn't notice a huge loss of depower. I was on a strapless surfboard, so I really want to get out with some straps and test the boosting.

Duck Tacks

Don't really get the name either but man they feel great when you nail them. I think it was Cosmodogs tips to wait until the kite is pulling you back the other way before you start pivoting that did the trick for me...before that I just kept flying off the back....which is so frustrating because to end up flying downwind of your board and end up doing a lot of body dragging. The other key is to keep your backfoot in contact with the board as you rotate around, but as you initiate the rotation, your backfoot moves first and becomes the front foot and helps heel the nose around. Helps to be well powered, otherwise consider down looping hard as you come out of it...

Still only batting about 10% with these - but it was good to make some progress!

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rcade

Since 14 Jul 2007
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PostSun Jul 19, 09 10:54 am     Reply with quote

Do you find you are getting anymore lightwind range by going 1/1 ? On lightwind days when I really have to pump my kite it just won't turn as fast as I would like. Was thinking of trying the 1/1 setup myself to see if that improves the turning speed.

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Blue

Since 03 Jul 2007
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PostMon Jul 20, 09 9:37 pm     Reply with quote

Tried my T3 in 1:1 at SI today. The turning speed is much slower in this configuration. I got used to it after a while, but I think 2:1 is better in light wind because of the faster turning speed. It is true though, the kite had much more even pull overall.

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Wind Slither

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PostTue Jul 21, 09 9:09 am     Reply with quote

Blue wrote:
Tried my T3 in 1:1 at SI today. The turning speed is much slower in this configuration. I got used to it after a while, but I think 2:1 is better in light wind because of the faster turning speed. It is true though, the kite had much more even pull overall.


Hmmm, after my initial "overpowered" test...I took it out a few days later for a "light-to-severely-under-powered" sesh. If anything, for me, I feel like it turned faster...at least it responds faster.

I guess the 2:1 mode should turn faster because the rear lines are attached further back...but it just doesn't feel that way to me on the 14M.

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