Rotor (meteorology), a turbulent horizontal vortex that forms in the trough of lee waves
Got it. My main question "Blue" is why must you take more precaution when using shorter lines?
Blue
Since 03 Jul 2007
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Wed Jun 03, 09 10:08 am
Why are you asking me? Ask FD, he brought it up
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#2 Rotor. If you don't understand the concept of rotor, the conditions that cause rotor, and how dangerous rotor is, then you shouldn't kite until you do. Find a qualified instructor
Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
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Wed Jun 03, 09 10:57 am
I am pretty sure monkeyboy just threw that in there to stir the pot.
Also I have to disagree with ya Ron, short lines cause you to loose low end on a kite and gain top end on the kite. I don't think it is dangerous at all to take my 9m out with my 17m lines on a 7m day. I have done it 20+ days and never had an issue. Also got to take out my 9m wity 7m lines on a lit up 7m day...now that was f-ing cool!
TrickyNicky
Since 14 Nov 2008
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Wed Jun 03, 09 10:59 am
Blue wrote:
Why are you asking me? Ask FD, he brought it up
Quote:
#2 Rotor. If you don't understand the concept of rotor, the conditions that cause rotor, and how dangerous rotor is, then you shouldn't kite until you do. Find a qualified instructor
I thought it was huge kite common sense not to park your kite at 12 oclock especially over land and/or around cliffs. Honestly though I've been around kiting for 5+years and this is the first time I heard the term "rotor". The concept is definitely understood. I've never heard it mentioned by an instructor, or read about it, nor been a victim to effin rotor. I'm not downplaying the potential, but shit all I'm asking for is a definition.
bulae99
Since 12 Jul 2006
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Wed Jun 03, 09 11:19 amLine length question..
Do you think it is a good idea for a beg to reduce line length?
Is a 3mtr built-in original line reduction, like best, safe? Hell yes!
Do normal every day kite boarders shorten their lines? I don't, and I sure as hell don't speak for anybody else on nwkite either.
There is a ton of factors to consider when reducing the length of lines.
So, not spreading FUD, but just telling it like I see it, my O and like my AH, is that line reduction should not be looked at as a reduction in kite size.
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Gman
Since 11 Feb 2006
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Wed Jun 03, 09 11:26 am
its not rocket science Ron - thats why some schools teach on short lines _________________ Go Deep!
Wed Jun 03, 09 11:43 amI get it, but here my problem
Some guy sitting at home on a warm easterly day around 5:30pm and reads a post about how he can reduce his kite lines and save some money on a kite.
I'm just sayin that you better know what the hell you are doing. You better have good knots. You better check your line length.
I'm just sayin that it's not a beg. thing to do. I have taught on short lines and it's the way to go. The bars I've were set up and tuned for specific kites by an IKO instructor.
If some newb/kook does this thinkin that it's a great idea.... _________________ Hey, I'm being hahahahahrassed!
pdxmonkeyboy
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Wed Jun 03, 09 12:18 pmRe: I get it, but here my problem
bulae99 wrote:
I get it, but here my problem.. Some guy sitting at home on a warm easterly day around 5:30pm and reads a post about how he can reduce his kite lines and save some money on a kite.
I'm just sayin that you better know what the hell you are doing. You better have good knots. You better check your line length.
I'm just sayin that it's not a beg. thing to do. I have taught on short lines and it's the way to go. The bars I've were set up and tuned for specific kites by an IKO instructor.
If some newb/kook does this thinkin that it's a great idea....
I'm just saying, I don't see how that is your problem at all?
Bottom line, shorter lines will make kiting at the top of the range of the kite safer. yeah, I guess you could be a dumb shit and tie the knots wrong or have the lengths screwed up but if your skilled enough to know that shortening your lines will help the situation, your probably smart enough to figure it out.
Regardless, failure to recognize the dangerous effects of rotor will likely have catastrophic effects. BEWARE THE ROTOR!!!
TrickyNicky
Since 14 Nov 2008
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Wed Jun 03, 09 12:22 pm
Chooch wrote:
I am pretty sure monkeyboy just threw that in there to stir the pot.
Ya he was just waiting for some kook to bite on that.
7m lines does sound sweet. I have a bar that's destroyed with 25m lines in great shape. I'm searching for a used bar now to rig these up shorter. It'd be something fun to check out. Have you seen the "Next" Tronolone video? Wainman rigs up that short on waves in nukin winds.. looks awesome!
pdxmonkeyboy
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Holy Sh!t!! He should definitely talk to an instructor before flying again.
pdxmonkeyboy
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Wed Jun 03, 09 12:40 pm
[quote="TrickyNicky"]
pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
I would NEVER do that...
Look at this guy who ignored the rotor...quote]
Holy Sh!t!! He should definitely talk to an instructor before flying again.
yeah, I know. He was like hey, its pretty gusty, I'll just reduce the length of my rotor blades.... he should have talked to a CERTIFIED IKO INSTRCUTOR!!! They are the ONLY people to be trusted.
Chooch
Since 18 Nov 2007
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Wed Jun 03, 09 1:06 pm
Wainmans bars come with 17m + 7m extentions that can be swapped so you have 3 rigging options (7m lines, 17m lines, or 24m lines)
pdxmonkeyboy
Since 16 May 2006
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Wed Jun 03, 09 1:13 pm
Chooch wrote:
Wainmans bars come with 17m + 7m extentions that can be swapped so you have 3 rigging options (7m lines, 17m lines, or 24m lines)
Now THAT is cool. Not a big fan of extensions but that does open up a bunch of possibilities.
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