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lawnmower

Since 14 Dec 2007
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PostWed May 27, 09 9:54 am    Drift launch at Stevenson Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone has any experience drift launching at Stevenson, and would be willing to go through a blow by blow description. In light of recent events I think safety would be a primary concern. I helped a guy get his kite off the rocks over the weekend, and when he finally got it to go he got lofted. Can this be done safely? Temporary board leash so the current would not wash it away?

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stringer

Since 31 Jul 2007
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PostWed May 27, 09 10:09 am     Reply with quote

The way I've done it is I set my kite down on the rocks and had my lines running up the steps and to the south of the tree. Then put the kite in the water and grab the bar and walk it down to the water as the kite is drifting downwind. Then you can relaunch while standing on the rocks. Grab the board and go!
This would work best if you could anchor the bar first.
Alternate method is wrap your lines up and unwrap as the kite drifts, but I don't like that one so much.
Wait until the economy gets a little better to use the board leash so my inheritance will be better...

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TWIN-FIN

Since 24 May 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 10:10 am     Reply with quote

I have seen Ken Winner (North Kites) do it from the boat launch harbor.
You have to have everything ready to rock and roll (kite pumped up, lines attached correctly and wrapped on your bar), you want to be approximately half way between the boat launch and the wind line. Drop your kite in the water leading edge down with wing tip pointing at you. Pay out the line off your bar......make sure you unwrap the line in the sequense that you wrapped them. Do mess this part up or you will have to redo your lines. Allow your kite to drift out to the wind line and pull you out into the wind. Once you are out in the wind you can water start and off you go.
I still think the best way to launch from Stevenson is the "Chris Anderson Launch"
In sketchy conditions thats how you will see me launch.
Heading out right now.......see you kats on the water Very Happy

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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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PostWed May 27, 09 11:49 am     Reply with quote

First impression: if you have to ask then maybe you aren't ready for it? Wink

Second thought: someone just got majorly jacked up at Stevenson, be careful!

finally: when drift launching you can turn your kite into the wind (like it would be on the beach) and put some water on it to weigh it down. This way it won't power up as fast or roll unexpectedly.

Unless it does! in which case, be ready to ditch everything to leash if you have to. Always drift launch unhooked and be ready to drop the bar.

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Chooch

Since 18 Nov 2007
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PostWed May 27, 09 11:55 am     Reply with quote

Another good idea for a drift launch set up is a heavy duty roap slung around a heavy stationary object with a carabiner on the end. You can hook up the chicken loop to the carabiner this way you are not attached to the kite if "shit hits the fan".

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 1:37 pm     Reply with quote

Chooch wrote:
Another good idea for a drift launch set up is a heavy duty roap slung around a heavy stationary object with a carabiner on the end. You can hook up the chicken loop to the carabiner this way you are not attached to the kite if "shit hits the fan".


not sure this would work at stevenson with the drop from the lawn to the rocks and stuff to get hung up on and swirly wind and all

what PKH said

I got it to go in light wind a few weeks ago - no one around to throw me up- the key was to have everything at the water's edge ready to pay out with no tangles or sticks to tangle you up - face the le like you would sand your kite but toss some water on it - send it off to sea - hope the wind doesn't flip 5 or 6 times and it doesn't circle the eddy (this happens) - if all goes well you pull the kite around and hot launch - probably closer to 50/50 for success... a bucket with the lines pooled properly will increase your odds

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kitezilla

Since 22 Jun 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 1:47 pm     Reply with quote

Can someone comment on the needed precautions due to the eddy and river current, at different times of the year, while a person is attempting to do a "drift launch" off the point?

For instance, if the wind is a little bit more NW than W, does the kite drift out into the main current and get turned around in a weird way? or Does a SW cant to the wind tend to make the kite drift up against the bank?

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 1:50 pm     Reply with quote

yes (both cases)

if the wind is weird your kite might sucked downstream around the big rock - then you can jump in and work on your swimming technique

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostWed May 27, 09 1:55 pm     Reply with quote

I'm going to have to take the PKH approach. An article spelling out how to drift launch at stevenson could be titled "how to maximize your chance of fucking yourself up".


If you pull up to stevenson and there is nobody else riding and you don't know how to drift launch...you need to be going somewhere else.


to the original post: if you had to rescue a kite off the rocks, the best thing to do would be to untie the lines, take it up top, and start the whole process over again. People should not be afraid to deny someone a launch if things could get hairy. No need to be a dick about it, just say your not comfortable that's all.

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 3:29 pm     Reply with quote

good advice

also don't hand your bar while your kite is in water to some bare foot guy in street clothes to hold -while you swim to retrieve your board - they may have some fun relaunching it for you Evil or Very Mad

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DVS

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PostWed May 27, 09 8:33 pm     Reply with quote

How about winding up about 10 feet of your safety line, before wrapping your lines on bar? That way, if things go wrong, there's no way the kite can power up.

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Nak

Since 19 May 2005
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PostWed May 27, 09 8:49 pm     Reply with quote

DVS wrote:
How about winding up about 10 feet of your safety line, before wrapping your lines on bar? That way, if things go wrong, there's no way the kite can power up.


Unless the safety line tangles and the other lines peel off. Been there, done that.

Chooch has the right idea: hook the chickenloop to something solid and stay upwind of the lines. It's best to use two lines, one to the chickenloop and one to the safety. Put a QR on the anchor line going to the chickenloop... It's pretty hard to set the kite on the edge of the window doing this at Stevie. You pretty much have to let the kite just drift downwind until it fills with wind. Don't unhook the anchor lines until the kite is sitting on the LE straight downwind. (And all the lines are straight.) Then hook in and let it pull you downwind away from the rocks. Once you're away from obstacles you can do a relaunch. Or, dump the kite to the safety and swim in to the boat ramp. Very Happy Don't do this unless somebody is watching so they can call 911 if anything goes wrong. Oh, and since somebody is there, just have them launch you normal anyway... Very Happy

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
I'm going to have to take the PKH approach. An article spelling out how to drift launch at stevenson could be titled "how to maximize your chance of fucking yourself up".


If you pull up to stevenson and there is nobody else riding and you don't know how to drift launch...you need to be going somewhere else.


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DVS

Since 02 Mar 2009
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PostWed May 27, 09 9:08 pm     Reply with quote

Yeah Nak, I guess you're right. the one time I tried that technique was in very powered conditions and the kite came off the water and tangled lines--- Launch aborted.

I have also used the technique you've mentioned about attaching chicken loop to fixed object successfully. Only on land though. I don't see how this will work at stevie.

You can't deny, a solid drift launch would be a wonderful trick to master. Think of the possibilities.... launch sites!! [/quote]

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Gman

Since 11 Feb 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

one word - TurboLauncher

http://www.kitelauncher.com/product.php?product_ID=5


buy mine for $50 - your experience may vary - offer not valid for totally fucked up launch sites - its red and you will love it

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trailboss

Since 08 Aug 2006
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PostThu May 28, 09 8:32 am     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
one word - TurboLauncher

http://www.kitelauncher.com/product.php?product_ID=5


buy mine for $50 - your experience may vary - offer not valid for totally fucked up launch sites - its red and you will love it


And it still looks horrifying:

http://www.kitelauncher.com/video/Self%20launch%20off%20shore.wmv

Is that really a marketing video for the product?

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pdxmonkeyboy

Since 16 May 2006
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PostThu May 28, 09 9:27 am     Reply with quote

trailboss wrote:
Gman wrote:
one word - TurboLauncher

http://www.kitelauncher.com/product.php?product_ID=5


buy mine for $50 - your experience may vary - offer not valid for totally fucked up launch sites - its red and you will love it


And it still looks horrifying:

http://www.kitelauncher.com/video/Self%20launch%20off%20shore.wmv

Is that really a marketing video for the product?


people still buy gojoes don't they.......

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fokiten

Since 04 Mar 2005
188 Posts

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PostThu May 28, 09 10:34 am     Reply with quote

side note:

If you're looking for a foolproof way to pay-out line without twists etc.

I'd recommend the bucket method, this is a time tested method:

The Phoneticians were the first to dump the pickles out their five gallon PVC buckets,

and usher in a fresh new use of plastic, circa about 2800 BCE.

Least that's my understanding, and swinging, salty dicks have been doing it this way ever since.

Please be informed, the garbage in garbage out maxim applies...

One "must" feed them in in an untwisted state, once done you're looking at nothing but butter coming out...

fo

love any chance to put two "ins" back to back...sweet

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