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bustingbladder

Since 12 Jul 2006
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PostWed May 27, 09 12:36 pm     Reply with quote

Melo, your integrity and sanity is quite stable and in place. For, I too personally witnessed two people getting ticketed at Lyle on Sunday. Although they didnt look like kiters ( more touristy look I thought) they were all prune faced out while he was writing the info on his ticket book. So, even though the thread might be saturated with the stench of urine, Laughing it is true that they were ticketing on Sunday. The cops i.e.( Staters in a white unmarked SUV ) parked right there by the opening where the saftey access road was and then warned people that were just wandering down there like sheep after the rest of the herd. Absolutely unknowing that they were about to get slammed. After breaking out my climbing gear with full cam set up, I managed to scale my way under the train bridge and gain access to yet another stellar Lyle sess'. Rolling Eyes
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pkh

Since 27 Feb 2005
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PostWed May 27, 09 1:48 pm     Reply with quote

bustingbladder wrote:
After breaking out my climbing gear with full cam set up, I managed to scale my way under the train bridge and gain access to yet another stellar Lyle sess'. Rolling Eyes


Was wondering about that...

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windobsessed

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PostWed May 27, 09 4:53 pm     Reply with quote

I was there on Saturday most of the day, this is what I heard/saw happen. The railroad cops came down twice to the sand spit and talked to kiters. They asked if you crossed the railroad tracks. If you said yes then they gave you a warning, if you said you came under the bridge they left you alone. I did not see or hear anyone getting a ticket? (not saying it did not happen) One of the guys asked the officer if it was ok to park at the top of the trail and he said he didn’t care about that he only cares about people crossing the tracks. I still don’t think it is a good idea to park there because it attracts attention! When asked what it would take to make it legal he said a cement crossing. When asked about a light he said just a cement crossing and a sign. Maybe we should just go to Home Depot and get some cement Wink

The kiters were pretty discrete crossing the tracks making sure no one saw them but I did see several fisherman walking along the tracks and then a couple set up some lawn chairs at that perch right next to the tracks and watched the kiteboarding. I left around 5:30, I think, so maybe they came back a third time and handed out tickets?

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forrest

Since 21 Jun 2005
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PostWed May 27, 09 4:58 pm     Reply with quote

Hmm, what is a cement crossing?

Maybe someone with some skillz can make a little draw bridge under the RR bridge?

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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostWed May 27, 09 5:10 pm     Reply with quote

Sounds like we can just pour a punch of cement over the track, stick a sign in there and call it good. Well shit man, that's easy!!

Thumb's Up Thumb's Up

I'm telling you, dredge up 100k and we can design a bridge over the tracks for you. A bridge that leads to a beach that the owners don't mange for beach access...LMFAO.

I'm not so sure traveling under the tracks is the best idea either. Seems like by air or by water is going to be the way to do it.

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groundclown

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PostWed May 27, 09 5:14 pm     Reply with quote

I just got a 3hp outboard yesterday. Anyone got a lil' dingy to put it on, or sell me. I'll dedicate it to kite running. I should be back in Lyle on Sunday, and you can be damn sure, that if it's blowing, I'll be out there. Legally of course.

I thought some local hill-billy would bomb the tracks by now. Wha' ya mean, I cain't git drunk 'n fsh on the tracks. I'm sure they would be charged as a terrorist though. The railroad is the criminal here. Sad, we are too stupid to cross a set of tracks safely. gotta protect us from ourselves. They should take those fines and build a crossing. (no offense to you other hill-billies out there)

Launch by the dirt bike tracks and kite upwind. That’s what I do. Probably breaking some other law!?
Jonathon

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Anyone need a room mate? Lyle, Bingen....

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wylieflyote

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PostWed May 27, 09 6:44 pm     Reply with quote

Someone mentioned how CGWA made the RR crossing a reality at Doug's? Well Doug's is also a Wa. St Park, which is a bit different than the Lyle situation.
When this came up as threatened last year we here in the Puget Sound area had many discussions and one concept was to bring along a cheap Sevlor inflatable kayak like we do at Jetty Island and just row across. Looks like legal county roads to the river?:

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hip in white salmon

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PostWed May 27, 09 6:53 pm    under the bridge? Reply with quote

How about that bridge that goes under the tracks just to the east? Right now it looks kinda hairy.

Anyone interested in helping design some sort of support we can walk on under that bridge?... I can weld it up if we can put together something workable. The native americans seem to engineer some pretty wild looking supports to net salmon, maybe we can build something that will solve the problem? Anybody interested PM me.

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PostWed May 27, 09 9:37 pm     Reply with quote

thats so awesome - how about a zip line - or tight rope with a cheater to keep you honest - always wanted to figure out the slack line - My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools...
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kitezilla

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PostThu May 28, 09 6:48 am     Reply with quote

wylieflyote wrote:
Someone mentioned how CGWA made the RR crossing a reality at Doug's? Well Doug's is also a Wa. St Park, which is a bit different than the Lyle situation.
When this came up as threatened last year we here in the Puget Sound area had many discussions and one concept was to bring along a cheap Sevlor inflatable kayak like we do at Jetty Island and just row across. Looks like legal county roads to the river?:


You do know that the "X" at the end of Cove road is a boat ramp, don't you?

The question is: "Is it Indian owned and therefore off limits to the public?"

and: "Would there be a parking problem along Cove road, for those kayakers leaving their cars there?"

Someone needs to go to the county to check on ownership of that property.

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Scribble

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PostThu May 28, 09 7:24 am     Reply with quote

If you used that boat ramp how hard would it be to paddle back up there?


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PostThu May 28, 09 7:28 am    tickets Reply with quote

Wow ,
Thats a pretty steep fine for being stupid , or is it ?
I started my life in europe and learned at an early age not to mess with the trains . The rail police are not very nice but for good reason . Trains are dangerous .
My uncle when he was about five ( he's not the only one ) thought it was cool to put little stones on the freight track and when the train went over them you had this colorful powder left . One of the many things besides pennies that can be flattened , cool eh ? Well once he did this and got his foot caught under a trestle and the train could not stop , due to the massive amount of weight and momentum . So the only thing he could do was lay back and hope for the best . He did not get killed but from just below the knee no more leg .
many dogs try to run the tracks and get killed some people too thinking that they can beat the train .
Do you think that the engineer wants to have it on his conscience that he flattened someone to death . Can you imagine having to clean the remains and what it must be like as a family viewing the remains at a funeral .
If you could paint that picture in your mind you will never mess with train tracks again . Unless proper crossings are available you can never be too careful . Think about our sport , sometimes just one forgetful moment or slight mistake can be very painful or much worse in the blink of an eye .
Thats why the fine is so expensive , to try to deter anyone from being in a very bad situation .
Please be dam careful and for sure don't make a train try to stop , they just cant that easily . It's easier to wait from a proper distance .
Just my two cents of experience .
I read this forum a lot and want to continue to hear from all of you , it would be sad for me hearing something worse than a fine happened with a dam train .
You guys are smarter than that .

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Scribble

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PostThu May 28, 09 7:39 am     Reply with quote

I don't know man. I feel like I can look both directions and if there's not train anywhere to be seen, I can walk over the tracks without dying. Maybe some people cannot do that, but I can. I'll sign a waiver, just gimme that shit to sign. I agree, the train is not to be messed with, but I'm just saying I can walk over it without dying.

Cars kill people too, every day. I honestly feel safer walking across that train track than driving around Portland.

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Tommy

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PostThu May 28, 09 11:05 am     Reply with quote

Gman wrote:
thats so awesome - how about a zip line - or tight rope with a cheater to keep you honest - always wanted to figure out the slack line - My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools...

I think I can one-up that... How about if we build a giant catapult on one side, and a giant catcher's mitt on the other, and we'll just fling people over, Super Dave Osborn style! Very Happy


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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostThu May 28, 09 11:27 am    Re: under the bridge? Reply with quote

hip in white salmon wrote:
How about that bridge that goes under the tracks just to the east? Right now it looks kinda hairy.

Anyone interested in helping design some sort of support we can walk on under that bridge?... I can weld it up if we can put together something workable. The native americans seem to engineer some pretty wild looking supports to net salmon, maybe we can build something that will solve the problem? Anybody interested PM me.


I think that if you messed with that bridge your ass would be in a WORLD OF HURT!. the RR is handing out $1,000 tickets for walking over their tracks. Imagine what they would do if you built a steel walkway under one of their structures. Working for an engineering firm, I can tell you that there is ALLOT, and I mean ALLOT of engineering that goes into designing and constructing bridges and abutments, etc. That work is not cheap. I really think the RR would flip their lid if you attached some steel structure to the underside of the bridge.

I'm not trying to piss on the parade or anything, just saying that maybe we need to just respect the landowners and the RR and let the whole situation cool off before there is a fence around the whole dam thing.

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kitezilla

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PostThu May 28, 09 1:42 pm     Reply with quote

Scribble wrote:
If you used that boat ramp how hard would it be to paddle back up there?


Andy


Quite easily, since the river current will help take you downriver to the sand bar, and then when you go back, the wind at your back will help you.

Once, about 4 years ago, when the water was low, I walked from the cove back to the sand bar, dragging my kite behind me, when the wind died.

Speaking of water levels...that sand bar is like something in the ocean with tides...stuff can get washed away, if you are not vigilant. The water rises fast, when the dam lets it out. I could foresee kayaks getting washed away, if kayaking to the bar from the Cove becomes popular. Of course, little anchors could solve that problem.

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Scribble

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PostThu May 28, 09 4:03 pm     Reply with quote

Well I guess there could be a silver lining to this whole thing after all. Fewer kooks.


kitezilla wrote:
Scribble wrote:
If you used that boat ramp how hard would it be to paddle back up there?


Andy


Quite easily, since the river current will help take you downriver to the sand bar, and then when you go back, the wind at your back will help you.

Once, about 4 years ago, when the water was low, I walked from the cove back to the sand bar, dragging my kite behind me, when the wind died.

Speaking of water levels...that sand bar is like something in the ocean with tides...stuff can get washed away, if you are not vigilant. The water rises fast, when the dam lets it out. I could foresee kayaks getting washed away, if kayaking to the bar from the Cove becomes popular. Of course, little anchors could solve that problem.

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