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pdxmonkeyboy

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PostMon May 11, 09 1:32 pm    Lens question for canon 40d Reply with quote

So it has become painfully obvious I need a decent zoom lens and I can't afford the 2.8L series zoom lens. So which of these do you think...

canon 70-200 f4 L series (non IS)

or the

SIGMA 70-200MM F2.8 DG EX APO HSM

thanks!

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PostMon May 11, 09 1:59 pm     Reply with quote

Naw. Take your photos in style:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800622963-USE/Canon_2527A001_Super_Telephoto_1200mm_f_5_6L.html

An L glass makes a difference in high resolution cameras.

Anyhow, you should consider saving up for 70/200 2.8L IS. Expensive, but well worth it.

You might lookup some comparison data here.

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PostMon May 11, 09 2:25 pm     Reply with quote

Agreed. WAIT. You should spend the money on your lens. You will take it from body to body. Don't skimp.
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PostMon May 11, 09 2:57 pm     Reply with quote

dude, I'd go for the canon.
If you're mostly shooting outdoors you probably won't NEED the extra stop.
It might come in handy every now and then.
The nice thing about the canon is that if you decide later on that you're willing to shell out for the faster version, it will still hold most of its value. You may only end up $50-100 down.
Maybe supplement with a nifty fifty if you really need something for low light.
Plus the canon 70-200 f4 is way lighter than the sigma or faster canons.

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PostMon May 11, 09 3:01 pm     Reply with quote

Blue wrote:
Naw. Take your photos in style:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800622963-USE/Canon_2527A001_Super_Telephoto_1200mm_f_5_6L.html

An L glass makes a difference in high resolution cameras.

Anyhow, you should consider saving up for 70/200 2.8L IS. Expensive, but well worth it.

You might lookup some comparison data here.


DUDE!! the eternal debate..new ferarri or new zoom lens....


You guys were supposed to say..yeah dude, get the cheaper one your never going to be able to tell the difference, plus, its not like your photos end up anywhere but on this site anyways... forget the bleeding edge hype.

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PostMon May 11, 09 3:08 pm     Reply with quote

maybe I'll just get the non L series lens. 70-300 and IS for around $600. That white lens body does say "oh yeah, this is the mack daddy lens"

but it also says, hey you..steal this M@#&er F^cker and sell it on craigs list.

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PostMon May 11, 09 11:03 pm     Reply with quote

Brian, think about the Canon 70-210 F4 lens. You should be able to pick one up for $100 - $150 on Ebay. Once you save up for a 70-200 F4L IS you can sell the 70-210 for about what you paid for it. I've got one that works pretty decent with my 40D.

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PostTue May 12, 09 12:23 am     Reply with quote

Squirrel dudes are rad! I just finished my 2nd Gen house for them a few weeks back.


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IN with the NEW!






Sorry for the hijack, I just really, really like squirrels! Very Happy

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PostTue May 12, 09 6:39 am     Reply with quote

Found a local guy with a 70-200 2.8L for $800. Seems like a good deal if it is in good shape, might as well spend the extra $200 and get the 2.8.

Although IS would be nice, from everything I read its not necessary for sports and it adds another $500 to the cost. in reality though, I never used an IS lens ..any thoughts anyone?

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PostTue May 12, 09 6:51 am     Reply with quote

Adam, time to get a job? Wink

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PostTue May 12, 09 6:53 am     Reply with quote

IS is a great feature - especially if you can't/don't use a tripod. Is it worth the price? I'd say, yes assuming you're shooting moving objects and not squirrel houses Wink

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PostTue May 12, 09 8:09 am     Reply with quote

What Bokeh said. IS allows you to take the camera off the tripod and still get very sharp pictures.

If you intend to take pictures for a computer screen, then getting inexpensive lens makes more sense. You will never see the difference lens makes downsizing 3888 x 2592 to 800 x 600. Than again, somehow I think you already know that Wink

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PostTue May 12, 09 8:30 am     Reply with quote

I was thinking at the shutter speeds that 2.8 would allow, I wouldn't really need to use the tripod for most action shots. I thought the IS was better for taking pictures of stationary objects...

I hear you about the computer screen but you can certainly tell the difference between an awesome lens and an average one. Razor sharp images just jump out at you. I figure if I am going to take the time to spool off a couple hundred pictures, they might as well look great.

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PostTue May 12, 09 10:01 am     Reply with quote

IS takes care of camera shake, allowing for handheld photography under conditions that would be prohibitive without it like low light conditions or low ISO setting (generally, if you are very concerned about quality, you want to keep your ISO as low as possible). IS also compensates for internal camera vibrations, helping with sharpness even when camera is on a tripod.

I guess the decision mostly depends on applications. Pro photogs tend to have lenses dedicated to the application they want to use the lens for. You don’t need 2.8 if you intend to use the lens outdoors for shooting sports. You most likely can get away without IS, although the number of usable shots will decrease. You also don’t need high quality lens if you intend to show your photos on the web only. Amazing sharpness can be achieved during image reduction with the help of the software. This will not work for large prints, of course.

For an amateur, such as myself, I want the lens to be as versatile as possible. I need 2.8 for portrait photography and low level light candid photography of my kids. IS is useful there as well. Also, 1.4 extender with 70-200/2.8 is as sharp as lens itself, and converts your zoom to roughly 100-300/4.

And you never know, when your wife will say " I want this picture at 16x20". Chances are this is not going to be a picture of some kiting dude, when she says that. Choices, choices Smile

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PostTue May 12, 09 10:09 am     Reply with quote

Are you going to try a water bag, Brian?

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PostTue May 12, 09 11:16 am     Reply with quote

probably not. I'll take pictures from the beach.

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PostTue May 12, 09 11:24 am     Reply with quote

pdxmonkeyboy wrote:
Found a local guy with a 70-200 2.8L for $800. Seems like a good deal if it is in good shape, might as well spend the extra $200 and get the 2.8.


Watch out for focusing speed. I have an older 80-200 2.8 and I have alot of trouble with the auto focus. It just focuses too slow.

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